What would she go to jail for?

Also what do you think about Trumps plan to give the top 0.1 percent of taxpayers(*) -- people earning multiple millions of dollars a year, on average -- will get more tax relief than the bottom 60 percent(**) of taxpayers combined?

(*)eg Hillary
(**)eg you

Damn why do we have to wait so long till the Trumpster gets sworn in, I can't wait for the comedy to start. Yes I know on my website in 2000, when I recommended voting for Bush he wasn't as funny as he could of been, but I have a good feeling with the trumpster

eg Read this today, heres him talking a couple of monster ago, about the university case
"I could have settled this case numerous times, but I don't want to settle cases when we're right. I don't believe in it. And when you start settling cases, you know what happens? Everybody sues you because you get known as a settler. One thing about me, I am not known as a settler,"
Today he settles that case for $25million

Im watching john saxon's 'the bees', the trumpster will need to ban this film since it shows some diego's defeating a wall

Hes been doing Brilliantly
Heres what Trump promised to the american people to do in his first 100 days with Legislation

1. TAX CUTS: bill not passed
2. STOP COMPANIES FROM GOING OFFSHORE: bill not passed
3. $1 TRILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT: bill not passed
4. MORE SCHOOL CHOICE: bill not passed
5. REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMACARE: bill not passed
6. TAX DEDUCTIBLE CHILDCARE AND AGED CARE: bill not passed
7. END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION: bill not passed
8. STOP VIOLENT CRIME: bill not passed
9. BOOST MILITARY: bill not passed
10. DRAIN THE SWAMP: bill not passed

OK granted that doesnt sound good, but its not like he hasn't been doing anything for the american people, he has talked tough with the Chinese and now the USA has won a major concession for dropping the imposition of a 45% tariff on China goods into the USA

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-china-trademarks-idUSKBN16F2JP

Yes America you now have the rights to Trump Branded Prostitute's in China, speaking as a part american I'm glad the Trumpster is doing all he can to spread the Love around the world

Not going to happen! Remember Trump is the great guy who has said he's going to keep the USA out of other countries affairs and not be a war monger like Hilary Clinton would of been. For the USA to attack NK would mean Trump has done a flipflop 180, which goes totally against the Trump character we all know and love.

Have I ever, I've never watched that channel or cnn or fox etc.

Btw so what do you think about all the emails/group chats etc coming out now from the fox news courtcase from sean hannity, tucker carlson, rupert murdoch etc all writing to each other (which they haven't denied) along the lines of

there is no evidence that the election was stolen and the only people people saying this are nutcases, but we have to go along with the lie in case our 'especially dumb' viewers switch over to newsmax.
Yet at the same time they were on TV talking about a stolen election.


Has fox news even reported on these messages? I doubt it

Hard to see them win the case, but then again defamation is extremely hard to prove, and they have a lot of high paid lawyers, so who knows, Law is just so corrupt.

Speaking of election corruption, What do you think of the confession from a couple of days ago
https://nypost.com/2023/03/19/former-texas-lt-gov-says-political-mentor-sabotaged-jimmy-carters-re-election/

I wonder how things would be in US society now if reagan didnt win. His win of course led to the policies which created the 80s yuppies, 'greed is good' 'trickle down economics' i.e. the transfer of wealth from the middle & lower class to the richest.

Then again clinton was similar (though not as extreme) so maybe it was inevitable

Well one could argue what his worst thing. I assume putting his personal interests ahead of the USA's interests would be prolly number 1.
Scrapping the TPP would of been near the worst from a US POV as it was very favorable for the US. For all his talk about getting tough on China, why did trump scrap the TPP, You know the TPP, the deal put together to counter China's growing influence in the World/Pacific, China hated this deal and cheered when the US withdrew from it. Why did trump scrap the deal? Reason cause obama signed it. Seems a bit petty doesn't it.
With Trump ignore what he saiz, take notice what he does.
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trumps-conflicts-interest-china/

Nobel peace prize, well the peace prize is a joke, obama won it for doing nothing, kissinger won it for being one of the worst pieces of shit in humanity, and for nominations well the bar is much lower than that. eg hitler was nominated in 1939.

that afghanistan withdrawal mess, had very little to do with biden.
It was more to do with the previous 20 years of bush jr,obama,trump. They had 20 years of trying to establish a stable country / governance and it just falls apart 1 day after the US leaves. Doesnt matter who the president was same thing would of happened.

Trump was never fighting for the 'little guy', I mean seriously I can not believe people would think this, but for some strange reason lots do. This guy that was born into one of the richest families in america, who has never worked a honest day in his life, yet he knows the day to day struggles. Come on seriously people are not that naive are they?
Hes always been about business, and hes pretty open about that, cutting down in regulation.

Like rolling back the dobb-frank act (put in place to help prevent bank collapses because then US tax payers often have to bail them out)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-begins-rollback-of-dodd-frank-financial-regulations
Of course in the last couple of weeks 2 large banks have failed in the US, which will cost the US tax payer, billions. Thanks Trump I guess.
Or cutting back on the safety for train braking.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/408125-trump-admin-rolls-back-obama-oil-train-safety-rule/
Of course then you have stuff like the train derailment a couple of weeks ago in ohio carrying petrochemicals. Still at least he saved the train companies a billion dollars, now the US tax payer bears most of the cost, Thanks Trump again I guess.


At least the shareholders are happy, The tax payers, workers? Well not so much.

PS: You do realize that Nafta is Reagans idea right?
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/north-american-free-trade-agreement-nafta
https://www.heritage.org/trade/report/the-north-american-free-trade-agreement-ronald-reagans-vision-realized
So how did you come to the idea that it was clintons NAFTA?

Here is reagan from his election campaign in 1980, it was one of his major policy points. If not his most important policy.



He talks about a union of US/canada/mexico but we all know the main reason business's want the deal = cheap outsourced labour in mexico

Yes Clinton was ideologically close to reagan and trump, we know he hung around a lot with trump (similar interests)
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/591c946cd1758e9fb0d8d002/1504901970332-RYG47A8YAXQ2LW66P2QS/IMG_5644.JPG

Mate this is part of the reason why I say the decline of the average americans living standard happened is due to Reagan. It even had a name, Reaganomics. It was policies the helped transfering of wealth from the middleclass and poor to the wealthy (*). You're quite old? perhaps not as old as me but do you remember the 80s?, yuppies, the greed is good mantra, trickledown economics etc, based a lot on ayn rands writings and worshiped in the chicago school of economics.
If you want to blame a president forget trump or clinton or bush, the most important president for the US decline in living standards is due to Reagan

(*)Google reagan and unions, IIRC the air controller unions



BTW Class I was watching 'Perdita Durango (1997)' last night.
For my next history lesson when I get some time, I will talk about the mexican / US border & policy choices and the old 'unintended consequences' effects of those policies

As promised heres the reason why there are so many people from Mexico etc living in the US today. Its basically a lesson of getting self-owned

US-Mexico border History lesson

Back in the Old times it was easy to cross between the borders, Mexico -> US and back again.


So what would happen is Each year a lot of the young men would leave mexico, go to Califonia/texas and work in the fields for 3 months doing a harvest of somethign, take their wages and go back to mexico, where obviously they felt more comfortable, culture/language etc.


Now what happened is during the 60s some politicians started getting the people, riled up. They are coming here taking our jobs etc (though honestly do you think the average american wants to work in the fields for low pay, So the reasoning was basically BS, but people don't want logic they want emotions)

So what happened is they started clamping down on border crossings, made it much harder to come into the US.

Obviously this decreased the number of mexican's in the USA right?

No mate, since they made it difficult, what ended up happening is once the mexican made it into the US, they didnt want to run the risk of going back to mexico because they might not be able to get back into the US to work again, so they just stayed in the USA for the whole year. Of course they missed their wifes/girlfriends/children after a while so they brought those over to live with them.


so we went from a couple of million in the US for a couple of months a year to >10 million living there the whole year i.e. its hilarious when you think of it, by trying to cut back on the number of mexicans in the USA, they actually caused their numbers to explode

Doing some more digging on a US government web site

The militarization of the border entailed a massive increase in the Border Patrol’s personnel and budget. From 1986 to 2016 the agency went from 3,700 to 20,000 officers and its budget rose from $151 million to $3.6 billion (Massey, Durand, and Malone 2002). Naturally, these resources were initially targeted at the two busiest crossing sectors, a policy that was formalized with the launching of Operation Blockade in El Paso in 1993 and Operation Gatekeeper in San Diego in 1994. Prior to that time, these two sectors together accounted for around three quarters of all undocumented entries, with two thirds coming through California alone (Massey, Durand, and Pren 2016). In the end, this massive militarization did not deter would-be undocumented migrants from heading northward. Instead, it diverted migrants away from militarized segments of the border into the Sonoran Desert towards new crossing sites along the Arizona border, where few Border Patrol agents were stationed. It thus had little effect on the likelihood of apprehension or the odds of gaining entry over a series of attempted crossings (Massey, Durand, and Pren (2014).Although border militarization did not have its intended effects, it did have profound consequences the behavior of undocumented migrants. First, the shift into rugged desert terrain induced them to make greater use of border smugglers while increasing the cost of their services. Even with these inputs, however, the new crossing routes carried a higher risk of injury or death (Massey, Durand, and Pren 2016). Second, the rising costs and risks of clandestine crossing, in turn, caused migrants to minimize border-crossing—not by staying home but by remaining longer in the United States once they had achieved entry, thereby driving down the rate of return migration and increasing the net inflow (Massey, Durand, and Pren 2015). As a result, from 1988 to 2008 the number of undocumented U.S. residents grew from two million to 12 million (Wasem 2011).

Also from reading apparently 66% used to just go to califonia and then back home, but once they made border crossings harder, they started to spread out into other states. I assume because they had to find work for 12 months a year and not just for a vegetable harvest season

They would of been better doing literally nothing (and would of saved the US tax payer billions in the process)

Yes its hilarious sometimes its easier to get people on the lesser charges.
The legal system is total BS if you steal billions you most likely won't go to jail (theres been a few exceptions like bernie maldorf but 99% of the time it holds) but rob someone of their watch, 10 years to jail