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The SOV thread

by sfpx

Mar 2018
Because I mean hello, there has to be one at a place called trash epics. Troma made some SOV threads singling out a few particular movies, but I figured one big fat free-for-all post that either celebrates or lambasts this supremely niche sub-genre of bottom-feeding white trash horror deck would be appropriate.

I myself love these movies. I can't quite put my finger on why, since, in some cases, even on an entertainment level (we already know on a technical level this is about as bad as it gets) they can be pretty boring. Maybe what appeals to me most is that aesthetically, these movies are ugly. They remind me of the old home videos my parents took when camcorders were becoming readily available and more common back in the '80s.

Something about cheap video quality just appeals to me; the documentary-like look, weird and dated "state of the art" computer effects, the faint buzzing sound in the background, and to say nothing of chintzy homemade gore fx, bad synth scores, everyday, average people who ordinarily would never be in a movie otherwise (hello: old aunt in Splatter Farm), and the decorum of people's homes where many of these movies would solely take place, looking as plain and brown and depressing as can be, wood-panelled walls, linoleum flooring and all. There ain't no fancy schmancy set dressers here! Porn-staches and tube socks also need apply.

My whole life I've naturally flocked toward all things retro and outdated and simple. I don't like big expensive productions. I like amateurism, mistakes, and things that are corny or trashy. I may seem like a walking contradiction typing all this on my cellular telephone, and hey, that's OK. Where am I going with this? I dunno. I think I lost my train of thought a bit. Oh yeah, SOV! Talk about it here if you'd like.

I think my favorite SOV might be Sledgehammer. There's something strangely wrong with this movie. It sorta seems to take place in its own little world where, while Halloween and Friday the 13th are the film's obvious influences, somewhere along the way things went seriously astray. It walks a fine line between total garbage and surrealist arthouse horror. The scenes where the hulking beast of a killer can barely stand up straight without hitting his head on the ceiling in the director's real apartment, stalking his victims down narrow, sad little hallways that seemingly stretch on forever, is the stuff of nightmares.

I showed my girlfriend a few clips of Black Devil Doll from Hell and she thinks it's hilarious, but sitting down to watch the movie in its entirety isn't really worth it. Every now and then we like to go, "Biiiiiitch" and "Wake up, bitch! Wake up!" because it's just the best, you know.

Anyway, imma stop now, because my fingers are tired from typing.


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Tromafreak says:
#1

Mar 2018
This is a type of movie that took me a very long time to warm up to. My introduction was Blood Lake at 12 or 13 and I was far from impressed. The home movie quality didn't do it for me one bit and made it impossible to see it as an actual movie. Much like most of these, the camcorder wasn't exactly the movie's biggest problem. I don't remember watching any others for some years until I rented the R-rated version of Redneck Zombies which might as well been PG. Strike 2.

Some years after that, I came across Cannibal Campout and finally started to come around. This is around the same time I realized that there is more than one version of Redneck Zombies, so, that's two I like, now. I eventually did some research and started collecting, which led me to Black Devil Doll From Hell and eventually Venus Flytrap, which I might try to write about soon.

I have noticed that the best quality SOVs are sometimes the most boring. Blood Cult is the best example I can think of. Then there's Video Violence. Not my favorite but to me, that one is best of both worlds. Best all around sov from the hey day, imo.

Nowadays, the only thing I like more than an 80's sov is a 90's sov, as they're more rare and unique, often surreal like Shatter Dead or Gore Whore. I love Tim Ritter's shitty Truth Or Dare sequels too But Todd Sheets is where it's at. I do wish more of his early stuff was available. Hopefully, there will be some kind of mass dvd release at some point. 90's sov is a whole other world which has barely been tapped into.

Chris Seaver made a bunch of movies a few years ago which are about as authentic as a throwback is gonna get. Death-O-Lantern and Stoinky were right outta the 80's. Several directors are trying to carry on the tradition and not doing a terrible job...

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sfpx says:
#3, Reply to #1

Mar 2018
You should write about Venus Flytrap. I've only seen it the once, like 20 years ago, but it's always stayed with me. It was the first SOV I ever saw, along with Fresh Kill (which isn't even a horror film, despite being in the horror section) when I rented it at the long-gone, legendary (in my mind) Video Connection - where you could find anything from Fight For Your Life to Eraserhead to Caligula to Emanuelle in America to Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama to SS Experiment Camp 2 to Truth or Dare: A Critical Madness. Ah, to walk that place again. Sigh....

Yeah, agreed that the best-made ones are usually the most boring. It's like the director didn't realize hey, this is some niche, bargain basement shit I'm making here, lemme go all out and listen to my inner (trash) voice. If your movie has the word "Blood" in it, surely you should know your audience and what they're expecting. I can't believe Blood Cult even had a sequel - were people in 1985/86 really wanting another one?

I don't know too much about 90s SOV, having seen only a few. It's interesting that you'd think as time went on, that the quality of these types of movies would get better, ya know, as technology improved and stuff. Hindsight, too. But no. From what I've seen, they appeared to get even shoddier looking and sounding.

I like the look of this Stoinky Beach movie, it seems pretty dead-on and accurate and not going too overboard or anything. That said, is it supposed to be a horror film? And what is Stoinky? That word needs to go in the "words that piss you off" thread. It's making me mad, lol.


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Tromafreak says:
#7, Reply to #3

Mar 2018
I tried doing something with Venus Flytrap like I have many times but I'm still having a hard time coming up with something decent for that one. I got something better planned for Monday, anyway.

Stoinky Beach isn't a Horror film. Just a really bad comedy, low-brow even for Seaver. I guess stoinky means really, really stinky. Probably having to do with vagina stench. I forgot specifically what it means. I skyped with Seaver a few times but can't remember exactly what he said about it.

There is a sorta-Horror sorta-sequel, called A Stoinkmare Before Christmas, which I got my name in the closing credits of.

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Box_a_Hair says:
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Mar 2018
There's something about SOV movies that automatically makes them shit. Since we all seem to like shit, that makes them okay. It certainly explains why it's really cult genre. These movies are pretty amateur, seeing as how they have no budgets for cinematic cameras, but it's different today. It's a genre that may die out. Cameras are becoming better and better, and they have auto-corrective features that can make anything look decent. Hell, there are probably some of them that have good sound features too, but I wouldn't know. I haven't made a video in years, so cameras are probably 10x better now.

I think something that makes a big difference is sound mics and lighting. Of course, the quality of old video is always bad, but I think that's at least a requirement for a good bad SOV.

Tromafreak made me watch Blood Lake, and I hated it. I'm glad I watched it though, because it set a great standard for these movies, and how boring some of them can be. Fuckin' lil Tony...

I think Redneck Zombies is one of the best SOVs I've seen. I watched a bunch of Chris Seaver stuff, and he's got a zero-budget Troma vibe, which I've grown to appreciate, but these movies really are just slightly more professional "home movies" a lot of the time.

Then, you have movies like Trash Humpers, which is a vhs/found-footage type of home movie. Where does one draw the line? If Hollywood were to film an SOV title, they'd probably film it with expensive HD cameras, then put a filter on it to make it look SOV. That's how they roll. I feel a lot of the appeal in making one of these types of movies is because they were cheap. Cost and quality.

Again, I haven't really seen enough of these to become a huge fan of the genre.


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sfpx says:
#4, Reply to #2

Mar 2018
Yeah, Blood Lake is pretty awful, but I think I'd rather sit through that one again that Avengers Black Panther Civil War Marvel Universe the Movie Part 26: You're All a Buncha Suckers.


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Znep27 says:
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Mar 2018
Redneck Zombies is easily my favorite. They knew exactly what they were doing, and really went balls out making it one of the most entertaining zombie movies ever made. And Boardinghouse holds a special place in my heart for just being downright insane. I have to wonder what was going on the minds of the people who made that one. For a modern homage, I have to recommend Massage Parlor of Death. It was pretty dead-on, and the spastic synth score alone had me laughing out loud.


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sfpx says:
#6, Reply to #5

Mar 2018
Massage Parlor of Death? Great title.

Boardinghouse is cool, but a bit of a letdown compared to its amazing trailer, which, I swear, was featured on every Paragon Video Productions tape (Just Before Dawn, The Gates of Hell, etc) I ever had.

One of the more crazy things I read on that once awesome site imdb (you may know it) was a guy claimed Boardinghouse was actually given a theatrical release, and that in his theater, it played right next to Jaws 3D.


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Tromafreak says:
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Mar 2018
Hands down the worst of the worst. Still not sure whether this is an actual home movie or an attempt at something.

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sfpx says:
#9, Reply to #8

Mar 2018
...speechless emoticon


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Tromafreak says:
#10, Reply to #9

Mar 2018
Yeah, seriously! You go through life thinking you've seen it all, and then you come across this shit. Time to rethink everything...


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foz says:
#11

Mar 2018
Just found this ultra low budget trashy SOV short - Chainsaw Scumfuck (1988) only 7 min long, cool credits & bespoke song...

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sfpx says:
#12, Reply to #11

Mar 2018
How weird! Saw that for the first time a coupla weeks ago. Good for those of us (me) with short attention spans.


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foz says:
#13, Reply to #12

Mar 2018
haha, nice co incidence. Chandon made a coupla gory fun feature lengths - Cradle of Fear, low budget anthology with Dani Filth & Emily Booth, and Inbred a silly dont mes with the locals job. youve probably seen them, but if not worth a look


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