Wikipedia itself says No Country for Old Men is a neo-western. IMDb and Letterboxd don't, although right below "genres" for the movie on Letterboxd, they have "themes" and what's the first one? Westerns. Sounds like some "is Jaws horror?" shit.

It is. I should watch No Country and count it for the challenge. This is some bullshit. I'm gonna take this to the parliment, eh.

You think George Clinton is qualified to rule on this?

Been a long time I saw it, perhaps its the setting?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_Western

if you want an excellant kiwi western to watch see
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086497/

Hey I'm in charge and I say... Yeah, it should count. It's a "neo-western". And Tommy Lee Jones wears a cowboy hat.

In fact, I may watch it myself.

you're in charge of nothing sunshine

You're right, I can't even get you to tally up your points.

well fuck you toos, All I can confirm is yous owe me 7 beers. Actually I did watch 2 more war films up the mountain which I havent added to that thread. Still less than 48 hrs before my flight. TBH Im gonna miss my little girl "(high piched squeak)... pa pa .."

I see your point but it's sorta how they consider Yellowstone a modern Western, same goes I guess for No Country and Hell or High Water. Tbh, I love Hell or High Water... it's Sheridan's masterpiece imo. If it wasn't for the success of that film we never would have gotten everything he wrote after. It's 1of the best original things Hollywood has made the past 10 years. Everything is a sequel, remake or reboot these days...so fn tired already. You're not wrong though, they are crime dramas more than anything else imo.

Why is Hell or High Water considered a modern Western? Cause there are many parallels involved between the classic American Western and today. Most Westerns are from the period of post Civil War and reconstruction till about post WW1. During this period carpetbaggers from the north and the banks came into the South and basically fleeced the people of their land and farms causing young men coming back from the war to banditry. They became stagecoach, train and bank robbers, all usually property of the North. This is all central to the American Western. In Hell or High Water they resort to bank robbing to pay and stop the banks from seizing the land their families have owned for generations only instead of it being the reconstruction period in the 1870s it's the 2010s post financial housing crisis in which case we can safely say the banks took advantage and fucked a lot of people?

Sheridan uses land-ownership as a theme in a lot of his works. While No Country doesn't mention anything specific about land or manifest destiny, it does give the impression that men are greedy and want a lot of money. Brolin may have very well bought some land with the money if he could, right? While westerns may have traditional bandits, No Country does have people fighting over a fat sack of cash, slinging guns (and air guns?) at each other in desolate rural settings. One could equate Brolin = cowboy, Javier = outlaw, and Tommy Lee Jones = sheriff. It seems like an obvious fit.

I don't believe a western needs to be restricted to a certain era, and I'm glad that modern westerns can exist, though I think with the advent of technology, classification of the genre becomes something to nitpick about. Then again, No Country was set in 1980, which is to say there wasn't any big computing tech out there. So they should really file this under western.

I really wasn't pushing for No Country but more for Hell or High Water but then again your analogies for No Country...Brolin, Javier and Jones makes sense. Javier's air gun is used to "ethically" put down livestock in commercial farming?