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Nov '19
Well I have been on a Slasher Marathon lately. It's rather silly since it's not really a favorite subgenre for me but I tried out usenet for a month half a year ago (I forgot to unsubscribe in time) and I didn't know what I could download at the time so I went for the slashers found in the grindhouse database.

I have been viewing them more or less chronologically. I'm noticing a few things. Contrary to popular belief gore & blood seem to be the exception rather than the rule, many kills not shown on screen or just quick and/or dark. The gratuitous nudity is in most cases rather brief too if there actually is any.

Another thing I noticed and rather bugs me that there is movies with a fantastic first kill shown in detail, really unsettling and makes you hope for more of that only to find out that all the other kills are hardly to be seen or not shown at all. Don't Go in the House (1979) was such a movie, great first kill made me hope for more of that but the rest it played out to be rather lame focusing on psychology and still mananging to keep the killer rather superficial. Pretty much the same with Don't Answer the Phone (1980) also had a reasonably good first murder, the others are poor again superficial psychology and 2 incompetent police men and a psychologist making Chief Wiggum look good.
Is this done deliberately I wonder to make sure you keep watching and hoping for more of this? It almost makes me wonder maybe it's better to watch it in reverse when the best parts are often in the first half hour.

The worst (1 or 2/10):

Meatcleaver Massacre (1977)
The Final Terror (1983)
The Single Girls (1974)
Sugar Hill (1974)
Blood Thirst (1971)
Savage Weekend (1979)

Had potential but not a pass (3 to 4/10):

Don't open the Door (1975)
Drive-in Massacre (1976)
Exposé (1976)
Terror Train (1980)
Don't Go in the House (1979)

Don't Answer the Phone (1980)


Pass to almost good (5 to 6/10)

Criminally Insane (1975): my favorite so far, simple lunatic killer
Tower of Evil (1972): insane first good half, utterly bad second half
Don't go in the Woods (1971): low budget but fast paced and kills are pretty graphic, never boring
Prom Night (1980): It's rather slow after a great opening, picks up nicely in the last half hour

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sfpx says:
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Nov '19
I love them.


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sfpx says:
#7, Reply to #6

Nov '19
Don't Go in the Woods is an epic trash epics epic.

Have you seen Unhinged (1982)? It has some similarities to Don't Go in the Woods - the weirdness, the woodsy backdrop, the rudimentary but totally badass synthesizer score - but is more dialogue based and borrows heavily from Psycho. It's fucking awesome.


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sfpx says:
#12, Reply to #10

Nov '19
Hes a wild card that Znep.


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sfpx says:
#18, Reply to #17

Nov '19
That's ok that you didn't like it. I'll admit it's slow, but what's important to me is that it isn't boring. In my opinion, of course. When the violence does erupt, it's shocking, and feel unusually cruel. Maybe you need to ruminate on things a bit and you'll come around. Or maybe you won't. That's ok too.

You didn't appreciate how sleazy it was? All that female nudity. The scenes of the girls showering nekkid and being peeped on by the retarded brother through the hole in the wall. And how he masturbated to them? Talk about pervy and creepy. Something about the film reminds me a lot of Andy Milligan's films. The old Victorian mansion. The in-family arguing. It isn't a typical slasher film that's for sure.

I mean the old lady disliked men because of what her husband did but when her oldest "son" decided to go in drag the problem was solved?



Well, it didn't solve the underlying issue, of course, but it was the best decision he could have made in order to stay in the home and try and maintain a semi functioning relationship with his mom: to just become a woman. The old woman clearly had major mental health issues to have "just gone along with it." In her mind, she didn't have to see a man / share her home with a man, and that was good enough.

I'll admit that when I rented it years and years ago I too didn't like it much but ended up buying it on VHS some time afterwards and loving the shit out of it. That's the cool thing about re-watching movies. Your opinion can change vastly.


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sfpx says:
#20, Reply to #19

Nov '19
Of course there's always going to be more violent, shocking, disturbing and sleazy movies around every corner. But when those elements happen to fall into a movie I find all-around genuinely good...then, well, I'll take that instead (of a movie that does contain all those elements in excess, but just sucks irregardless). Sure Unhinged is chump change compared to '70s European sexploitation films, but I like to judge a film in its own context, not compare it to what came before. If I was to compare it to slashers from 1982, which is something I'm more inclined to do, it does set itself apart by quite a distance in its tone, and feels like the director was trying to do something a bit more unique and outside-the-box than just another cookie cutter Friday the 13th "date night" knockoff.

But, y'know, to each their own.


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sfpx says:
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Nov '19
Seen any of these?

Madman (1982)
The Redeemer (1978)
The Mutilator (1985)
Hospital Massacre (1982)
Pieces (1982)
Blood Rage (1987)
Slumber Party Massacre II (1987)
Happy Birthday to Me (1981)
The Dorm that Dripped Blood (1982)


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sfpx says:
#11, Reply to #9

Nov '19
Yeah, Hospital Massacre's a fun one. I love how the killer goes berserk. Such a weird movie though. Like why the hell was Barbi Benton so willing to go along with everything? To give us an entertaining movie, I guess.

The Mutilator IS cliche but having been made toward the tail end of that slasher wave, Im pretty sure it was all done intentionally and very tongue-in-cheek. It's sort of the end of the non-prententious slasher, but also headed in the direction of the post-ironic slasher too.


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sfpx says:
#15, Reply to #14

Nov '19
Last time I checked a pristine picture quality version of The Mutilator was on YouBoob.


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sfpx says:
#22, Reply to #21

Nov '19 *
I think, for me, I like it a lot because its a random 'turn your brain off' type killfest; lots of nasty murders (did you see the uncut version!?) and a surprise ending that is unusually downbeat.

"That girl" by the way is the lovely Daphne Zuniga who would star in her own slasher flick a couple years later, The Initiation (1984) as well as The Fly II (1989) and the '90s primetime bitchfest Melrose Place.


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sfpx says:
#24, Reply to #23

Nov '19
True that.


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sfpx says:
#28, Reply to #26

Nov '19
Yup, it's a good one. It's much better than the more celebrated My Bloody Valentine which is by the same producers.

I would love to see an uncut version some day. Some of the kills could've been bloodier. I'm positive they were edited down.


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sfpx says:
#31, Reply to #30

Nov '19
The uncut My Bloody Valentine really does have some amazing kills though. I dunno if you saw that one but it definitely gives the movie a nice juicy edge it was previously missing. What bugs me about it is the stupid schmaltzy love triangle stuff. It gets downright soap opera-ish at times.

I hear you on slashers just getting right down to business, but when they're done right by an able director/cast/crew, I don't mind taking time with the characters / storyline. In the case of The Burning I have to disagree with you. That's one of the better ones. All the teen hijinx stuff is endearing to me because it's handled well, I like the characters and it's never dull.

It's been years since I watched Bay of Blood and while focusing on a Ten Little Indians-style slasher with emphasis on brutality was novel at the time, I found it dull. Whether or not Sean Cunningham was inspired by it for Friday the 13th I have no idea, but he one-upped it in almost every conceivable way.



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