Fair point. The postal votes came in early, so in theory at least, they should be counted early.

The fact I'm an Independent and don't really have a dog in this race bothers some here but the fact remains I want free and fair elections, that's not what's goin on at this time. Democrats are acting like this action is OK as long as they win. That attitude is fuct and detrimental to our country. It's obvious to all with eyes to see that what's goin on is wrong. Hell, even Rubin Report acknowledged it. Even when Bush beat Gore in 2000 it was over a district or 2 and was settled after 24 hours and I wish Gore won in hindsight. It's almost 3 days and still nothing declared, our Republic is now dead due to mob Democracy unchecked. I'm moving to Mexico before that wall is used against us....Buenos Tardes pendejos!

" It's obvious to all with eyes to see that what's goin on is wrong."
I see what is obvious with wrong conclusions like this.

Actually seems you weren't well informed about the votes by mail. In states like Penssylvania people were allowed to vote by mail until the day of election and all mail that comes 3 days after election count as long as there is a postmark of the Day of election or earlier (an agreement from a Republican governor btw). So what are you going to say now, blame the post offices for slowing this process? So the comparison you make considering Gore and Bush is pretty void. Inform yourself better before you start making conspiracy theories like this. Or do some (republican) sources keep this info secret to the population? Keeping behind info and screaming fraud if it doesn't go the way you want with elections? Again that's the way a dictatorial regime works. Is that what people want? I bet Trump would have been happy if he managed to make the counting stop even if that's a totally undemocratic and tyrranical way as long as it gave him victory. It's actually Trump who is ok with winning no matter how even asking for money to support him in a witch hunt with no proof, seriously? That's how they do it in some African republics.


And also this from the daily mail (UK):

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8918559/Why-crucial-votes-taking-long-count.html

Why the deciding votes are taking SO long to count: Sluggish tallying of mail-ins, fixing ballots one-by-one, ink shortages and printer errors have drawn out the process for days as America and the world waitTwo days after the election, hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots remain uncounted across Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia and North CarolinaThe tallying process has been sluggish due to an array of factors, including malfunctioning machines, printing errors and a record number of mail-insAlso adding to the delays is unprecedented pressure to make sure the results are right when they do come President Donald Trump on Thursday promised to mount legal battles in all battleground states won by his rival Joe BidenTrump has repeatedly demanded to stop counting because of voter fraud Meanwhile Biden and the Democrats have urged Americans to be patient and insisted that every vote be countedElection officials in the states still up for grabs are doing just that, making sure results are bulletproof in preparation for legal action by the Trump campaign

See my message, actually a lot of postal votes came in later because in certain states votes by mail were allowed 3 days after election day as long there was proof that the vote was done on or before election day. That obviously is the reason in takes longer than expected.

Don't ask me, I didn't make the rules. You gotta ask them. But think about this had they been counted first and Biden would have had an advance that Trump couldn't overcome, I bet Trump would be screaming fraud as well.

At this moment I'm glad I'm not an US citizen or living there, this is just a scary situation. The way how some (most?) republicans blindly follow and repeat Trump's ideas is scary. We have Belgian reporters in the US and even though they do think Biden is a rather weak figure, their critique on Trump is hard. He didn't manage the covid crisis well kept minimizing it, instead of trying to reconcile the parties with the Black Live Matters events he threw oil on the fire,instead of uniting the country he just further divides them (speaking of the Divided States of America) Have a different opinion than the president you are a liar and the enemy. And the situation like is happening now with stop voting crying fraud on voting by mail before it even was executed or counted further deepens the enormous gap between blue and red sympathisants. Situations like this you only expect in a a dictatorial regime. Again not my words but from non-American journalists working there not driven by a republican or democrat agenda. Sure they have positive things to say unemployment was low and econmy did rather well under his reign (mostly pre-covid) but that rather pales at the situation that happened when Covid broke out.

Look at one of his latest tweets: "I easily WIN the Presidency of the United States with LEGAL VOTES CAST." (with it's childish tone, I imagine him sticking his tongue out here). And yet he offers zero evidence of fraud, it's just a hunch because let's face it, he can't face the fact that he might have to admit defeat to "Sleepy Joe". Was never going to happen, whether all the votes were LEGAL or not.

Well it's something you expect to hear from a kid who got its candy stolen or a troll on the internet. Not from a person who rules one of the mightiest nations in the world.

You really don't think there's anything questionable about poll watchers being kicked out and windows being covered at counting facilities? Not to mention we're STILL waiting for certain states to finish counting ballots. Nope, nothing questionable about that. Again, if the tables were turned, the left would be furious. They were furious after 2016. Russia? Impeachment? All because they couldn't accept losing.

Ballz, see my message above. You didn't know some states agreed on accepting postal votes until 3 days after election day? I find it strange don't you people get this info?

I have no problem with mail-in ballots arriving late that were sent on or before election day if that's what a state allows (although I think the mail-in cut off should be sometime before election day in every state). Except now there are whistleblowers claiming they were backdating postmarks on ballots mailed after election day. Considering there were reports before election day of mail carriers throwing away ballots and other reports long before now of mail being thrown away, I find it easy to believe they would backdate late ballots.

Well the thing is that it's a weird electoral system where you can become president even if you don't have the majority of all votes. Not sure if that is the case in other republics? I personally find it a rather wretched system.

Couldn't disagree more. The founding fathers were brilliant to implement it. Otherwise a few heavily populated states would be making every decision for the whole country.

Don't take it the wrong way but I thumbed this up by accident. Jimb explains it well. You come from a country that is like one of our small states, that's why you can't relate.

Jimb says it well. We have a few outrageously political cities that we need to keep in check, so the system is more weighted along the merit of the state and its population. It ain't the majority, but it's the proportionate representation. I don't want California telling me what to do.

America has reached a new low. The country would rather have an oblivious puppet in office simply because the tv says he's better than the other guy. Facts and testimonials are swept under the rug because Biden is not Trump, therefore he is good, even if he's mentally incompetent.

I've been trying to be objective about this, but it's quite a bizarre circumstance. On one hand, we wont read about Trump's negativies in the news anymore. Scratch that. The democrats have legitimately wasted the last 4 years trying to stop him that they haven't given any thought to any political issues. When they fail to get shit done, they'll blame their lack of incentive on Trump and his hinderance to their "progressive" America.

But the best thing I can think of after all this mess is that Trump is a smart guy. Yes, HE IS, and fuck you if you don't understand that. I'm sure he anticipated the stupidity of the common man and worked it into his plan to make life more difficult for the democrats. This includes people he's put into positions of power as well as the laws he's enacted. Biden will probably struggle to understand what any of these laws mean and they'll waste their time trying to undo them and re-implement their bogus agendas...

One thing I fear is that democratic leaders don't understand money. They don't care if they put us another 8 trillion dollars in debt, because they can always print more money, right? They'll spend money they don't have to create more agencies we don't need, et cetera, et cetera...

I wouldn't be surprised if Corona virus suddenly disappears. The mail in election is done, so we can put this virus away until another conservative threatens the sheep of America.

And meanwhile the rest of the world breathes a sigh of relief...

Funny you should mention he is a smart guy. When my 8 year old son found out Biden had won he said he was glad. I asked him why he was glad and he said "Because Trump is stupid. He doesn't believe in climate change." The youth have spoken and they care about their future on this planet.

"I wouldn't be surprised if Corona virus suddenly disappears."

That's been my prediction all along. Shortly after inauguration, Biden will declare the virus is no longer a threat.

Trump has been declaring it's not much of a threat since day 1.

I'm not convinced he was wrong. Don't bother responding with a bunch of numbers. I believe they're inflated.