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Dec '18
Okay, this is a really good movie. A serial killer who makes his victims into art recounts several of his killings. It's all shown in very classy and sophisticated way, and Matt Dillion gives an awesome performance. In the last half hour, things take a very strange and unexpected turn, becoming much more of an arthouse film.

But I think I may have been duped, and actually ended up with the R-rated version. If it was truly the director's cut that I watched, it's not anywhere near as brutal as I've been led to believe. Every time things started to get really nasty, the camera always seemed to cut out way too early. Honestly, I found Lars von Trier's earlier film, Antichrist, to be much more disturbing.


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Dec '18
Sadly you have been duped. There was a clip in the stolen news feed a few days ago concerning the MPAA and IFC films and their dispute over IFC showing the directors cut in theatres. I'm waiting for the directors cut on Bluray or VOD when it's released. Not sure but I think the clip was from Bloody Disgusting.


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markus-san says:
#3, Reply to #1

Dec '18
I'm waiting for the directors cut on Bluray or VOD when it's released.


Not until June 2019 for the director's cut unfortunately..



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markus-san says:
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Dec '18 *
Watched it yesterday. I agree it is a really good movie, possibly could become my favourite of all Von Trier films although I will definitely not watch it again until the unrated version is released. I believe it is definitely supposed to be more brutal/nasty in what you see onscreen (the breast being sliced off and more lingering shots of the dead bodies of the two boys) - I mean if Antichrist shows in graphic detail what it showed, there is no reason why THTJB doesn't need to..

Kudos to Matt Dillon, he has never been better. He was genuinely a believeable serial killer.. perhaps the most memorable since Buffalo Bill or Hannibal Lector. The final act does go more arthouse, but this is Von Trier so.. hardly surprising. Oh and it will be divisive, like most horror released this year seems to be.


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Znep27 says:
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Dec '18
I'm still not so sure about the rating. A few days before even the R-rated cut was supposed to be released on VOD, Youtube put the movie up for sale, calling it the director's cut. It was available for less than 24 hours before it disappeared, but I bought it in time. I still have not seen anybody confirm whether or not that was the true director's cut. The only way I could find out now would be to rent the r-rated cut, but I don't want to pay for it again just to compare cuts. In the version I saw, he sliced under her breast and started to rip it off, but you only saw it for a split second before it cut away. I knew about that scene beforehand, but the way people got so upset I figured it would probably show the whole thing.


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markus-san says:
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Dec '18
Ah then you do have the unrated version/director's cut. In the cut I saw, you don't see him even start to cut the breast. It is all implied after it cuts to him throwing one of them onto the cop car's windscreen.


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Znep27 says:
#7, Reply to #6

Dec '18
Well, that's good to know. But I have definitely seen gorier movies that were rated R. I can only assume it was the kids being involved and the misogyny that got it the harsh rating and upset so many people. Also, it was screened at the "prestigious" Cannes Film Festival, where it was seen by people who aren't quite as desensitized as I am.


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markus-san says:
#8, Reply to #7

Dec '18
Mark Kermode during his review of the movie said Cannes is where film critics' heads turn to mush emoticon.

Right. It was the kids, the misogyny and.. the duckling..



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