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Feb 2023 *
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Just once, I'd love to see an awesome, legendary horror film come along and impress us all while making plenty of money for everyone without studio greed and desperation rearing its ugly head. Why can't they ever just say "Great job, guys! Let us know if you have anymore ideas". Nope! Success means that success must be Xeroxed at all costs. And as many times as possible. If it made money, there must be an attempt at repeating the formula to milk a few more bucks out of the biggest fans. One or more sequels CAN be fine, but some movies just need to be left the hell alone! If that's just not an option, then maybe don't make a watered-down rehash. This is often something that can cheapen the greatness of the original in the eyes of many. A hard thing to do in this case, as this particular original is pretty much perfect, in my opinion. 1985's Return Of The Living Dead is pure 80's greatness. One of, if not the greatest 80's horror film of all time. 1988's Return Of The Living Dead Part II, on the other hand. Well, let's just say this movie is what late 80's horror is all about: Beating a dead horse!

image Not to say the original movie was a dead horse, or something nobody cared about, but it already happened. It came and went. People had seen it. This extremely watered-down sequel was just a prime example of the dwindling creativity from a nearly dead heyday for the genre. Those last couple of years didn't offer us a hell of a lot in terms of quality or originality. However, one might think a movie like Return Of The Living Dead Part II could have an advantage, getting to ride the coattails of its predecessor. Financially? Yeah, I guess. As a fan, knowing an already weak movie is not only connected to such a masterpiece, but completely dependant on it, makes it come off all the weaker. Nowhere near the worst thing from the latter part of the 80's. Not even close. But keeping the original in mind? Yeah, get the fuck outta here with that!

image I think the most noticable difference between this movie and the original is that this one is completely devoid of that nightmarish tone which has been replaced by a tone of silliness and parody. The original was hilarious, but there was a noticeable balance. No more "spooky" delinquent teenagers. Instead, we got these little kids. Two dicks and some little pussy, who, for some reason, is the main character. After the pussy kid runs away from the dicks, they all stumble across a barrel under a bridge, which has been misplaced by the Army. The head dick locks the pussy in a mausoleum, and the two dicks go back and open the barrel, infecting themselves and unleashing the inevitable Trioxin into the air, infecting the nearby graveyard.

image The pussy can't get out of the mausoleum until a couple of grave robbers break in and catch him, allowing him to eventually run out. The two grave robbers are portrayed by James Karen and Thom Matthews, who are, more or less, playing the same characters from the first movie. Don't get me wrong. Those guys are great. They made the original even better than it would have been, but wedging them into this one feels like the director is saying "Yeah, I know this movie is lame, but at least these guys came back". Yes, they definitely made this movie better as well, but their presence only makes me take this movie even less seriously. And don't even get me started on the Tarman cameo...

image The pussy figures out what is going on and aims to get in touch with the Army before things get out of hand, but is endlessly hindered by his idiot sister. As we witness the resurrection of a bunch of goofy-looking zombies to a really annoying soundtrack, the grave robbers are, of course, also infected. After the pussy informs the Army of all the chaos, he, his sister and some guy run into the now hysterical grave robbers, who are pretty much fucked by now. However, they still think medical attention will make a difference. In reality, it is too late for them. But we already know that because we've seen the first movie. Pussy and pals hook the grave robbers up with a doctor, but it's no use. As they wander off and become undead, the pussy, his sister, some guy and the doctor rush to find a way to help stop the madness. Ultimately, this leads to the pussy standing up to an undead version of the head dick from earlier, giving us the closure we never knew we needed.

image I will say one nice thing about this movie. It has what might be my all-time favorite cover/poster. I remember being a little kid, looking through the horror section at my local video store when this first came out. Creepy covers such as Rosemary's Baby and Fright Night stand out in my memory. None stimulated my imagination more than Return Of The Living Dead Part II. I remember renting "Night" and "Return", and then thinking "Wow! THAT one must be the scariest movie ever made". I'm not sure why I never rented this sequel, but some years later, I remember catching the last half of it on FOX one Saturday afternoon, and thinking to myself, "Hmmmmm... ok, then".

The only thing I hate more than a cash grab is an obvious cash grab. That and lame dad humor. This sequel has not only managed to replace the genuinely scary tone of the original with comedy, but really bad comedy. Like when the zombie and the guy were struggling on the floor, only for both of them to stop in their tracks and become mesmerized by the aerobics chick on tv, leading to all the zombies doing the same. You would think it was full blown porn, going by their reaction. The Harry Truman gag was almost clever. Never mind the zombie who fell for it only looked to be dead a few months. I get that it's not a realistic movie to begin with, but come on! That thing would be nothing but bones if the last President he remembered was Truman. The jokiness of it all, along with the obvious attempt at a PG-13 rating should have discouraged anyone who might have expected a half decent sequel. And being so dependant on the ideas of the original while completely discarding it, makes this all the more unlikable to me. It's no wonder why, years later, they made it a point to get away from anything resembling either of these movies with part 3. Now, that's how it's done! I can't praise that one enough. And as for 4 and 5... Well, that's another story. And I'll go ahead and let someone else tell that one. I just don't have the heart for it. And to think things actually get worse than THIS shit. Sometimes, it really is for the best to quit while you're ahead. 3/10

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OnyxHades says:
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Feb 2023
Ok... great review as always. I do however, as you know, totally disagree with you on this one. Babe, I love ya, but no no no!! To me you are wrong on this one!

Maybe I'm jaded by my childhood memories and the nostalgia this brings me. Maybe that's why I love it, maybe that's the only reason I love it. I don't know. I can't help but feel though if I had just now saw this movie as an adult and never as that kid in the 80's I would still love it.

Yeah, true it's goofy and yeah I suppose I have to begrudgingly agree that it's not as good as the original, but I still say it has a lot of charm to it. To me it's a good movie, and I love it.


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markus-san says:
#2, Reply to #1

Feb 2023
Do you two ever see eye-to-eye on stuff? emoticon


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OnyxHades says:
#3, Reply to #2

Feb 2023
LMFAO! We do often, but some movies not so much emoticon. What about you? What's your opinion on this movie?


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markus-san says:
#4, Reply to #3

Feb 2023
I asked because I noticed how you both disagree on British comedy too, so I wondered lol.

I have only seen the original film I'm afraid.


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Tromafreak says:
#16, Reply to #1

Feb 2023 *
To me, this movie smells like piss. The piss of someone who doesn't drink enough water and eats nothing but eggs. emoticon


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OnyxHades says:
#25, Reply to #16

Feb 2023
Well now... That is a very specific and vivid description of how you feel. emoticon


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OnyxHades says:
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Feb 2023 *
Aw, too bad! Was curious what you thought.
Yeah, we definitely disagree on British comedy. One thing about it we agree on though is neither one of us likes Monty Python. My favorites are Keeping Up Appearances and Are you Being Served. I enjoyed Waiting for God, but didn't watch it that often. Now, I'll watch anything that has Ricky Gervais. He is by far my favorite comedian.


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markus-san says:
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Feb 2023 *
Aw no, come on, how can you not find this kind of satire amusing (that's Troma's thoughts at the end emoticon):

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Yeah I liked how Hollywood stars would be shit scared of Ricky Gervais hosting the Golden Globes.


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OnyxHades says:
#8, Reply to #7

Feb 2023
Ok, I have to admit I laughed watching that lol. I'm not really a fan of Monty Python, but I do LOVE the dead parrot skit.


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Box_a_Hair says:
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Feb 2023
Agreed that the poster is quite awesome. I remember this as a blind-buy from BestBuy when I was in the early years of my horror fandom. The imagination is a powerful thing. All I had to judge this movie on was that dvd case with the cool artwork, and some vague imdb data. Data such as "starring Thom Matthews and James Karen", which was a real mind-boggle for me back then. How the hell could they return from the dead? Or how can they be taken seriously as new characters? Especially when they're partnered up again, and both dumbasses again? And the answer was that t hey couldn't.

I met Thom Mathews at a convention and mentioned this movie to him. He scoffed at it, deeming it a stupid movie that he wasn't thrilled to come back for, for reasons like you said, of it being too kiddy and rehashy, which is exactly what it was.

I still like it though. It does kinda suck, but I like Dana Ashbrook, and (like that one zombie you mentioned) I like watching the yoga scenes. I also like the setting of the under-construction suburbs. The tone of this movie would make me peg it as the main influence of the old video game "Zombies Ate My Neighbors".


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Tromafreak says:
#19, Reply to #6

Feb 2023 *
That bully kid that turns into a zombie makes me think of you for some reason. I figure if you had some greasy little asshole son, that's what he'd look like.


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zed says:
#22, Reply to #6

Feb 2023
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How the hell could they return from the dead?

You understand the basic premise of zombie films right? emoticon

mate that quote is sig worthy


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Feb 2023 *
Stellar review as always full of objective opinions. As you've said the original is probably a top 3 horror comedy of the 80s somewhere between Evil Dead 2 and Re-animator imo. While I'm not a big fan of the 2nd installment either, I do own it on DVD. My neighborhood FYE (For Your Entertainment) store was going out of business and I picked it up for $1.99 about a decade ago. I remember picking up maybe a doz horror DVD'S that day for under $30 bucks! I think you might be slightly harsh on a 3/10 rating only cause I truly miss the horror comedies of the 80s and 90s. The past decade has been abysmal for horror comedies imo. I would gladly rewatch Return of the Dead Part 2 over the crap they call horror comedy lately. You're no longer allowed to be offensive and everyone seems to be offended by something which now creates some truly weak content. I'd like to see a review and your thoughts on Return of the Dead III which I think is a pretty decent flick while parts 4&5 make the 2nd installment of the series seem like gold.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#11, Reply to #9

Feb 2023
Tromafreak is pretty harsh with all his ratings. I've seen him rave about certain movies only to give them something like a 6/10. emoticon


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#12, Reply to #11

Feb 2023
I'm the same way tbh... people give me shit cause I rarely if ever give a 1,2,9 or 10 out of 10. Even though I don't think RotLD p2 is a good horror film, 3/10 seems harsh...purely on nostalgia I'd personally have to go a little higher.


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#13, Reply to #11

Feb 2023
I'm sorry Box, I don't think I can agree with you. I don't always agree with Troma but I think he's a fair rater. For instance, looking at his 2023 viewings he gave 68 Kill an 8/10. I completely concur, I ranted and raved back in 2019 how fn awesome that film is.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#14, Reply to #13

Feb 2023
Troma gave a movie an 8/10 rating? emoticon


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Tromafreak says:
#17, Reply to #14

Feb 2023
I try to be realistic and not too biased with ratings. And to not only consider my own personal preferences. Plenty of bad movies I like better than certain good movies, but recognize that they aren't as good and don't deserve a higher rating for many reasons.

BTW, you oughta check out 68 Kill. It was directed by Trent Haaga and got the chick from Excision in it.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#24, Reply to #17

Feb 2023
I used to rate things more appropriately, but fuck it. I go by enjoyment value now, and stupid shit like RotLD2 is still preferable over plenty of other more acclaimed movies.

I actually never saw Excision, but I'll keep an eye out for 68 Kill.


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#26, Reply to #24

Feb 2023
In honesty, you need to see Excision and then watch Kill 68... believing I know your taste in film, you won't be disappointed. Anna-Lynn McCord is pretty great in both roles imo.




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