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Oct '19
I'm asking this question after I read a post of one of my facebook 'friends'. Well I have traded action figures with the guy a few times but I keep our relationship rather superficial.

He posted a list of MTV awards from 1994 and put the awards from this year next to it with the message "The world is coming to and end". Pretty clearly he isn't too happy about today's music. He's from 1980 so he was 14 years old and I guess at almost 40 they are still his heroes. Some of the names are: Aerosmith,Janet Jackson, Snoop Doggy Dog, Nirvana, Bruce Springsteen, The Rolling Stones. I don't know anyone from the new list but it's clear it's a new generation of singers/music bands.

I think everyone is free to continue loving the music from their youth until they die but comparing two pretty different periods with each other and of course thinking the old stuff is superior sounds like the typical middle aged sour puss who doesn't like that the world is changing. Music industry changes just like the movie industry, just like technology evolves all the time. It's called progress and evolution. He probably said as a teenager to his mom and pops not to be so old-fashioned. In a few years when his own son is a teenager he will probably laugh with the dinosaur's music his dad is listening to.

When he said he doesn't listen to the radio any more I told him there is enough opportunities to listen to retro music in specialized music channels or just stream or pop in an old school CD of your heroes, simple as that!


Is it part of midlife crisis venting about how everything was better in their youth? Well I can think about a dozen things that weren't too cool when being young: restricted freedom, having to go to school, having to study, not being able to buy what you liked etc

I have always been more of a movie than music person. I do prefer older movies yeah even movies froma period before I was born. But I'm not saying they ware better. I was a kid in the 80s and I can honestly say that period cranked out a lot of crappola too. It's rare but even I can find some real gems in recent movies. Ghostland and A Quiet Place are examples which were an instant buy for me after I had seen them.

I bet friend Bert (that's his name) is getting of on the 80s tribute movies which had been the shit the last decade. I'm thinking of
The House of the Devil (2009) from Ti West
The Final Girls (2015)
Summer of 84 (2018)
As 80s kid I was really underwhelmed. Sure they had 80s things but it was clearly made in modern times and te young people were not even born to know what the 80s were like. Definitely in the case of the Ti West flick recreating the past to every tiny detail is painfully uninteresting and tedious (to me anyway).


He definitely does love the old Star Wars and Ghostbusters. surely he will be in the group of complainers (usually guys 40+) how the new versions ruined it all without even haven seen those. Guess what you do have the liberty to not watch or even ignore it.


I say yes to evolution and creating a different style. You never know if you are missing out on something you might like. If I want to be nostalgic I put an on old song, movie or videogame.

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Cornpop says:
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Oct '19
It's kind of a rite of passage to get to the point where you say today's music is crap. I don't know. I like music from the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 90's. I think the 80's had some good music, but not much that I like. Music that came before about 2012 was also pretty good. The past several years have not been all that impressive. I personally think that most of the popular music coming out now is awful. emoticon

I prefer older movies for sure, but there are a lot of great new ones coming out now too. The only problem for me is that there are far too many awful remakes, particularly within the past decade. They don't have anything new or interesting to add. They seem to be a cash grab, hoping to piggyback on the success of the original.


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sfpx says:
#30, Reply to #1

Nov '19
I like music from the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 90's. I think the 80's had some good music, but not much that I like


I guess it depends on what you like. The '80s underground is vast and wide. Everything we have today is because of all the genre cross pollination and experimentation of the '80s. It wasn't all Culture Club and Wham! and Air Supply and Paula Abdul in the '80s.


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Cornpop says:
#31, Reply to #30

Nov '19
Now that you mention it, I think I actually do like a lot more of the music from the 80's than I was thinking when I posted, but that cheesey popular music was awful for me.


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Znep27 says:
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Oct '19
Every generation always thinks the next generation's music is crap. I can't stand modern popular music, but there was a lot of crappy pop music in the past too. Older music seems so much better, because, for the most part, only the good artists are still remembered today. The shitty ones have been forgotten by time.

It does annoy me when people say there's no more good music. Good music is still being made, you're just not going to hear it on the radio, you have to do a little research.


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Johan_WoW says:
#15, Reply to #2

Oct '19
I think you can say the same for movies. Netflix or other streaming sites usually are going to offer the mainstream stuff shown in theatre. If you want something different you need to seek other sources. But I guess streaming made people lazy. While the decline of physical devices might be good for place saving and the wallet, I really hate it has become a consuming business like eating food. I'm one who likes movies to come with extras to delve a bit deeper into it. Streaming can't offer me that (yet).


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Box_a_Hair says:
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Oct '19
In my opinion, the good music is probably there, but it's buried too deep by the garbage that most people listen to. And like a lot of movies, I'll probably discover the good stuff from today in about a decade or two when it's cult status builds up. The other day, @der asked me if I could name a single song that came out after 2012. I could not. emoticon

For movies though, it's different. Obviously, I like a lot of older movies from the dawn of filmmaking onward, but there are still a decent amount of good ones coming out today. However, I will agree that the 80s nostalgia wave is a bit annoying. Yeah, I love the 80s, but there's something not quite authentic about most of the homage stuff they're making, like it's kind of forced.


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markus-san says:
#23, Reply to #3

Oct '19 *
In my opinion, the good music is probably there


The good music is definitely there. 2019 has been a great year for music with many outstanding albums having been released thus far. Most of it is not "mainstream" though for sure and they tend to fall into genres that divide many "pop" music fans, like hip hop and metal. But if you're open minded enough to appreciate most genres of music, there is a load of stuff to be discovered from the past few years. I wouldn't have discovered most of it without Nicko or sites like rateyourmusic though.


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sfpx says:
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Oct '19 *
I'm all for technological advancement and moving forward - it's how we've gotten to this point in the first place - what's bugging me is how the very things that make life more convenient and the gizmos and gadgets that are cool, and the ease and access for limitless films and music, and so on and so on, appears to be transforming society as a whole into something not quite....right. In my opinion, people are becoming more and more sheep-like, (hey, let's all "Netflix and chill!" I hate this expression), superficial and vain (with social media and likes, trying to craft the next sensation internet persona - barf.)

With the advent of app delivered car rides like Uber and Lyft I gotta believe it's wound up saving more than a few potential drunk fatality victims, but then what about the folks I consistently see, like every day, almost every time I look at another driver, texting like their life depended on it?


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Box_a_Hair says:
#5, Reply to #4

Oct '19
In regards to my previous comment in this thread, I was watching 'Yesterday' with @der the other day, and a lot of that movie is a commentary about how stupid society is.

For example, when the guy plays the song 'Yesterday', they seem to like it, but his confusion stems from their lack of familiarity and he tells them it's only one of the greatest songs ever, and they go on to say, "Well, it's no Coldplay." ... A statement like this in itself means that society ought to go extinct, because Coldplay is fucking garbage.

But there's more, too, like how he can play these Beatles songs and people keep their heads glued to their phones, in which he laments on how he knows that the songs are strong, but nobody wants to listen. Which also leads to the fact in how much the internet has changed over the years. It began as a niche for nerds and outcasts who wanted to discuss things, but now everyone just tweets selfies, food pics, and memes. The mid-2000s were a better era in regards to the internet and dvd collecting, that's for damn sure.


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sfpx says:
#6, Reply to #5

Oct '19
It began as a niche for nerds and outcasts who wanted to discuss things, but now everyone just tweets selfies, food pics, and memes


Good point.

I've been using a few dating sites lately and I've noticed a running theme since I have no contact with widespread, commonly used "social media." So, it came as a shock to find:

Photos heavily filtered, to the point people look like cartoons. Some with stupid animal ears and noses; it's fucking retarded.

Expressions being used over and over, like the above named "Netflix and chill" or "I'm a young professional" or "down for good vibes" and countless others. Everyone is just plagiarising each other. Where's your identity?!

Providing their Instagram and Snapchats, meaning, they're looking for online "fame," validation, and likes. Boy, they're getting themselves into a never-ending cycle of chasing what they think is gonna make them happy. Sad..

I read once that memes became popular because it's a way for people with no personality to bond with others over something, something that they didn't even create, but by sharing it and passing it along, and being "in on the joke" it's a cheap way for them to automatically somehow be funny or "hip." That to me is....frankly, pathetic. I want nothing to do with that shit. And yeah, on the dating sites, some people actually say memes are one of their interests!!!!


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Box_a_Hair says:
#7, Reply to #6

Oct '19
Oh dear... there's so much wrong with the world these days, isn't there? In order to lure people towards them, they post images of what they don't look like? That's called cat-fishing, and that's immoral. I think a few memes are funny, but I definitely wouldn't be lacking in personality enough to consider them an "interest". All those expressions used are cheap ways of saying something without saying anything at all. Are you sure these dating sites are even worth it? Sounds like a bunch of fuckery to me.


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sfpx says:
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Oct '19 *
Meh, I've been chatting with people, but it hasn't gone anywhere yet really.

This meme-culture really bugs me, but hey, at 36, I suppose I now fall into that old guy ranting about shit camp. Oh well. I like it from this view.


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Cornpop says:
#9, Reply to #6

Oct '19
The animal ears snapchat picture filter on grown adults is the visual equivalent of nails on a chalkboard for me.


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zed says:
#13, Reply to #9

Oct '19
I just always assumed those are ppl with some sort of mental retardation, is that not the case?


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Znep27 says:
#10, Reply to #6

Oct '19
I'm not on any form of social media, so it's probably much worse than even I realize. But I see it in the comment sections on YouTube every day. Nearly every video has all of the exact same jokes under it. I've always felt that if you don't have an actual thought, shut the fuck up. I guess a lot of people disagree with me, because these repeat jokes are always pushed to the top with thousands of thumbs up. There usually are real thoughts down there somewhere, but they only get 10 or 15 thumbs up, so you have to go way down searching for them. These braindead fucks would rather see the same joke for the millionth time in a row than hear what somebody actually has to say.


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sfpx says:
#11, Reply to #10

Oct '19
Yes! I see it in YT comments sections too. At first I was confused, but then realized they're variations on some sorta joke. A joke I don't entirely get, nor want to get either. It's fucking bizarre. And they used to say zombies aren't real...

I guess we're the weird ones since we offer resistance to this herd-like mentality.


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Johan_WoW says:
#17, Reply to #6

Oct '19
Are you talking about young people cartoonising themselves or pretty much all ages? In the case of peeps around your age or older that I would indeed think of as pretty pathetic and stupid. I don't mind people being silly but I'm not sure I would take them seriously as potential dating partner.

People are sheep even on the internet they just follow a trend some weirdo started. The lack of identity and of course addiction to their mobile devices at any free moment no matter how dangerous it can be (when driving a car for example) will more likely be the end of humanity and not changes in tastes.


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sfpx says:
#19, Reply to #17

Oct '19
Mid 20s and older. Younger than that I'll give em a pass. But I see lots of women in their 30s and 40s doing it. I just think its stupid.


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Johan_WoW says:
#18, Reply to #4

Oct '19
I already said it in a reply to Znep but Netflix and other streaming sites made people lazy. There is so much more good stuff out there but most people seem to be content with what this company decides what should be a must see. I guess there will come a day psychical devices like DVD's won't be distributed any more. I have made sure I have a copy of my collection with all the extras. I hope when that moment comes there will be an alternative to the streaming who only offer the movie with no extra options.


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jimb14red says:
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Oct '19 *
Toys were definitely better in the 80s🙂




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