Ballz gave me one good advise avoid politics discussions and do not make family members moderators.

Since Der being a high-ranking mod is the main point of contention for certain people, along with his lack of a filter, definitely. It gives off the impression of favoritism. Those people are on your Der-free forum now though and as a result, for the time being, that particular issue seems to have resolved itself.

I don't have much else to say in regards to your side of the story. Some of your frustrations are reasonable, such as receiving almost no feedback to your posts. I've been there and it's discouraging. I do find it funny how you say politics on TE bothered you while one of the main causes of this site's political drama is now a mod on your forum. Hopefully you won't go on there one day to find a thread dedicated to hating a celebrity over their political opinions.

Politics were the problem at some point yes. Box was also pretty passionate about the American president but I kept out of these discussions and that helped.
Believe me I'm not going to allow politics on there even though I'm not spending much time on any other place than the Dutch movie board nowadays. I really don't have time nor the drive to post on other places.

Not as passionate as Troma was, it has to be said.

I really don't have time nor the drive to post.

That exact reason maybe the reason why people don't reply so much. There has to empathy given both ways.

I always like you Johan, you know that, but I have to be honest here - I think you would respect that. I fail to see what Der or Box has done to you to warrant you to leave, or "was the drop for you". I understand that there are always to sides to a story, however my standpoint, Der was, and is warm and friendly to you. I understand you have made-up with Troma, and all, but your conflicts with him were far worse than any you have ever had with Der. Isn't it a fact that Onyx once deleted on of your anti-Trump posts on the politics thread? Straight-away that is a violtion of freedom of expression. I understand you were not happy with Der with his handling of the challenges, but do you not think you have been listening to too much of Troma's side? I know you said you have been talking to him on Facebook. However, you haven't heard Der's or Box's side of the story. From the outset Box has always been very good you, and you to him, but they same can't be said of Troma.

We all appreciate all your efforts here, and you are a valuable member of T.E - no one will ever argue that. I know you have been frustrated with a lack of exposure to your posts, but it is a valid point to say that you have even less exposure now over on the other site.

I don't like to bring Ballz into it, however I do feel you have been selective here, he also said:

If Johan, Troma, Onyx, and whoever else are so unhappy that they need a separate forum, so be it. It's probably for the best. I have nothing against any of them, even if their attitude towards Box has been shitty. Hopefully they'll get over it eventually.

If you were willing to bury the hatchet with Troma and Onyx, why not with Der and Box?

Not to mention the fact that Troma banned Johan at least once.... like completely and outright.

Yeah, it utterly mystifies me.

I think he may be muddying the waters with his frustrations with not getting many replies to his posts, with that of Troma's views - in essence he has the two seperate issues intertwined as the one.

That would make sense.

He is cutting off his nose in spite of his face.

I now see login is required for guests on their site.

Guest stuff is always tricky, especially if you allow them a way into the actual content. The only stuff guests are allowed to add on here are public shouts, on the contact page alone. If someone is invested enough to want to add a "guest comment" though, they're usually somewhat more likely to make an account in general.

Well Gym, that's for keeping people out who are way too curious, like you. I'm not telling you any more personal things since there is way too much others got to know or you share publically about something I told you privately. If you call my move to create a board low, what makes your throwing private stuff like this around then?
And you expect me to return with tale between my legs and reconcile, I might be crazy but not desperate. I can start about the times how you got all dramatic about things happening on here. And one moment you believed user A, 5 seconds later user B was the one telling the truth. And you had never trouble with joining in public bashings either even if you didn't know even half the story.

But I am not going to share them here, I rather go out with dignity than tolerating you mocking me any longer. You did that very passionately at Box' topic and now again here. All that shit about me being a valuable user thank you and 5 minutes later the opposite, but I guess that's you changing your mind like the wind. Sorry I have no more time for this nonsense, wish you all the fun and leave me out of the family thanks.

Yes, I have had my issues with the site. I thought the politics thread was destructive and to the detriment of the site. I voiced those opinions. I didn't appreciate the fact that you were PM'ing users to get them to take one side. It was damaging to the site. Troma was constantly involved in drama through the years. I told you he was no angel. You know this. You seen all the fights he was involved in, dozens. He is the common-denominator. That is fact. Why cant you see that? You were always vehemently opposed to Troma and Onyx. Now you are buddies and chatting to them on Facebook. What changed? I don't know what you have against Box, and to a certain extent, Der, that you can't let bygones-be-bygones? Box has told you he is just the dev. umpteen times. If you still wont accept that, then that is coming from Troma. You sold your soul to the devil. I always liked you no matter what you think. I would always give you recommendations even if they weren't to your taste, but this latest fiasco has left a bad taste in my mouth. Good luck.

At least Johan here has the decency to explain himself, unlike others who play the victim card to such an extent that they're actually beginning to fool themselves.

My issue is that while you claim you're not trying to divide the board, you absolutely ARE trying to by making sides and drawing that line in the sand. I've begun to think that the users you have invited back have generally given up on not just TE, but any spin-off effort entirely. I wish users like albert, smerd, psychotronicbeatnik and so many others would make themselves regular again, but they've made up their minds, and a message board from the stone age isn't going to lure anyone back.

Again, I'm sorry that your posts don't get the exposure you're hoping for, but it also shouldn't all be on ME to make or break your interest here. Yes, I like the topics you discuss, and while I start reading them, I get distracted and forget to come back to them sometimes. It's a shitty excuse, but life sneaks up on you and it's hard to reply to such epic posts when you want to be fair to several points in them, but you don't have the time necessary to cover all the things you want to respond with.

Again, it shouldn't be my inability to read a thread that ruins your experience here. Constructive criticism is a better option, and I've already got the #editorial tag in mind to add to those long posts of yours so search engines will crawl them better and people will have a more likely chance of finding them, outside of TE.

I've stated my thoughts on this part several times, but somehow, I just ain't speaking clearly enough about der's "mod" status. Der is a developer, and he has been behind the scenes of TE since day 1. If people take offense to a developer co-developing his website, then that's pretty fucked. The status has now been clarified more, that der is NOT a moderator, and he himself has stated several times that he has NO interest in moderating this message board. He develops content, and that's it.

Tromafreak was surely pissed when Der edited Mulletkid's thread to make him gramatically correct once. I happen to understand that awful grammar is mullet's trademark, and I expressed my disdain with der on the edit, and since then, he hasn't edited ANYONE's posts. He hasn't approved or denied accounts, banned accounts, edited posts, comments... NOTHING. So why has this been a big deal-breaker to so many people? There was a time I had at least twice as many mods on here, and nobody cared then. Why do they care now that a developer on this site has certain privileges that (like me) he chooses NOT to use? I don't understand how I can make this any clearer to people. The only issue here is that opinions differ, and instead of using the ignore feature, people leave a place that's always been willing to adjust to the concerns and criticisms of its users. If people can't stand to be around other's opinions, they destroy the one reason that message boards exist in the first place: the freedom to say what you want.


It's always upsets me when users leave. I try not to blame myself, but you meet and bond with people and think you have something special, only to have them spit on your face later. Don't make family members mods, huh? Well, tromafreak was such a pal to me before, he was like a brother to me. I made him a mod because I thought he could be trusted, and I was willing to overlook ALL of his mishaps on here before because I thought we understood each other. I never figured him to be the one to throw away a 10 year friendship over some petty squabbles about Cars 3 and "head mod" status.

I got no beef with anyone here. Not tromafreak, onyx, markus, or even you, Johan. Sure, this stuff bothers me a lot, but I never personally strive to drive anyone away from here. I've never banned anyone on here except for a few blatantly malicious new registers, and I never edit anyone's posts (except to correct broken markup). I don't want people to worry about what they post, or whether they'll offend other users or not, because that's just stupid. If you have to filter yourself out of fear of what others may think, that's not a proper environment to be in.

Lol I forgot I fixed Mullets grammar once! I think he was just purposely derailing something I was talking about and using mullet. I thought it would be funny, but I really shouldn't have done it. I really wasn't trying to act as a moderator their even though.

So for the last time, I'm not a moderator. I'm a dev. I have been since the first day of this site. I don't and have literally NEVER editted or moderated anyone elses posts. Not once. However, the new "Head Mod" of your site did. I also didn't start any of the political stuff you don't like, but you know who did? Troma!

Also as far as not knowing how to make a site, well you don't. Sure you may runs some things on another board, but you are simply not prepared for the demands of Troma, nor does proboards(with out you spending a fortune), give you the funtionality to keep Vic away and do the things Troma will demand of you.

You can say your effort was not to divide, but I've been told by the people you PM'd that you used words like "we are brain washed" and other things that clearly, very clearly show an effort to drive people away from this site.

As far as the conflict with me being the last drop, well I didn't really do much. Sure my reaction could have been better, but I was simply reacting to being attacked and insulted by Troma for being "#2". Which again I have been since day 1!

I hope you can see past the bull shit and rhetoric and come back here, because we don't hold grudges, but if not that's your choice. Have a great life!

He almost makes it sound like you and Box were responsible for all the political stuff.

Tell sushistoner VPIR says what's up, good dude there. Don't be a stranger Johan, take it easy.

Thx Vince at least you understand why I got tired of this. Despite our differences and clashes we had some good discussions on here. Others have left or became inactive for various reasons. I always had the feeling I would come to such a point too, pity it happened in this way.
All the best man.

It doesn't have to happen in this or any way. You're just choosing to write off people who enjoyed your contributions, regardless of whether they replied to them or not.