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Jan 30 *
You guys, this is really interesting. I think I must have missed it when it was in the news, this feels like NEW news to me. Like, I don't think I knew about it until today.

I'm not saying Thor Heyerdahl was right about everything. In fact, I AM saying that he was definitely wrong about shitloads of things. But, it looks like he was right about this.

Here is the article. I hope it's clickable.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2487-2.epdf?sharing_token=YbYh7h-oFTVqiaIHO404B9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0NQ-GCGXs3b23XyInVhVtT1AdcNQHZodtkKNjeo_SR6zt9f9aL_AX33870N0wZrUnumb_oEV09bctmUoZF9efqVOMerEWxA71IrXlxocHJ7nd8Ys94Z733tZMsOGzx8ERRP41ktd_opbdkfBKR0OcXfUPTeeUVaxDDWG8Iet1QiGN_VAUdlEj562PopOAZimCyrYOBuv4MX9wbCoB48uMAtpZPiP6J-tw8R-CK2JARfi4GVwJqKXEnROmln3_VlD_Uze7YRCi9nKCVqY5cS6ibd4YcLCgY7iLejjR6ZnoRb8Xn2oJqriUF5KXEGhelNMW-FPhd-Z8aZuWMSsR3hwpJGrp-3nqr9e9Ct3Pm2DMQ7xq7Zr2BpKRbpnWXMSUypzpwciVg0GWkw2D_CeMT7Z7AE&tracking_referrer=www.iflscience.com

The idea is that Easter Island was partially settled by people of (partial) Native American descent. But, those people came to Easter Island from the WEST, not from the east. There was some kind of contact in about the 12th or 13th century A.D. (not that any of the people involved would known what that meant, obviously) between the Marquesas Islands of French Polynesia and somewhere in northerly South America, probably the Zenu people in what is now the nation of Colombia. And, also, if I am understanding this correctly, maybe some contact between Polynesians and the Zapotec people of Mexico, possibly a few decades earlier than the Zenu contacts.

They don't seem to be clear on exactly what happened, but the way they talk about it makes it sound like there may have been some kind of Native American colony, waaayyy out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. I love that idea... Either that, or Polynesians rowed all the way to South America, and then later took a few women back with them, to the Marquesas Islands area.

Thor Heyerdahl made some crazy claims, but just the basic idea that there may have been some contact between South America and Polynesia is apparently correct.


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Tommix says:
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Jan 31


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Jan 31
Besides my love for cinema, I am also a big history buff. While my central point of interest has always been ancient history from the Mediterranean ex. Egyptian, Greek, The Levant, Roman and North Africa...I find this interesting. I find the story of Easter Island fascinating and believe his theories could be possible?


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Tommix says:
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Feb 1
VPiR, I'm gonna come back to this later, but just quickly: check this out. They think there was a now-lost Romance language that developed out of Latin, in North Africa. Isn't that wild?!? It makes sense, that that could have happened, but still. Wow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Romance

I was seriously into the theories of Barry Fell, years ago. He thought he had uncovered evidence that early peoples from what is now Libya, and also Celts from the Iberian peninsula, may have made their way to the Americas. He sounded really convincing to me, I thought he was onto something huge, for several years. I no longer think that, but I feel like I owe him some kind of debt anyway. It was like getting to believe in Santa Claus again, in adulthood. Just the sense of wonder I got from his theories.

Wait, I wanted to say something, about the Native American genes found amongst people on Easter Island. The idea seems to be that what happened is that first there was contact between ethnic Polynesians and (probably) Zenu people, and possibly Zapotec people, in the 12th or 13th centuries A.D. This took place in or near the Marquesas Islands. Then, later on, the descendants of those people were the original inhabitants of Easter Island, arriving there before Europeans discovered the island. Yah. I just wanted to state that more clearly than I did earlier.


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Feb 1
I honestly believe from what I've been told both the Egyptians and even more so the Carthaginians made it to North America before the common era...B.C.


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Tommix says:
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Feb 1
OK... just to make this point: maybe you're right! I, of course, have no idea.

I ended up disagreeing with Barry Fell, but I still WANT that type of thing to be true. I eagerly read any article about this general topic that ever comes to my attention... I have also been a big fan of the Madoc legend, the Welsh prince who may have sailed here in about 1170 A.D. Also, the legend of Henry Sinclair, that's another good one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I_Sinclair,_Earl_of_Orkney


About the Egyptians: wasn't there something in the news about cocaine being found in a mummy, which obviously would have dated from long before contact with the New World?


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Feb 1
I don't know if I'm right, I'm just saying what I've read in the past or listened to on podcasts. I believe I listened to a podcast on Sinclair awhile back. If I remember correctly wasn't he a Templer?...or at least a supporter of when they were outlawed and persecuted by the European nobility? Secretly giving them sanctuary and protection?


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Tommix says:
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Feb 2
People say that, about Sinclair. I don't know if it's true. I have actually been to the rock in Westford, MA, that people claim to see a carving of one of Sinclair's knights on. I used to date a girl who lived not far from there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westford_Knight


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