🔔Alerts
Login to get notifications!
🗨ī¸Forum

🎞ī¸Movies & TV


🌐Junk

🔍
Search keywords
Join➕ Now!   or       đŸ”Ŋ Forgot Password?
avatar
🚸

The Lost (2006)

by Tommix

Feb 2023 *
First of all, what a pathetic title. Whatever happened to titles that make it easy for us to google them?!? Titles like Soylent Green, or Frankenhooker, or Maniac Cop 3: Badge of Silence? There's no way in hell you can find The Lost by googling it, without more information. OK, so, just so you have that information if you want it, it starred Michael Bowen, Marc Senter as the main character, Dee Wallace, Shay Astar, Megan Henning, Robin Sydney, Ed Lauter, Richard Riehle (Tom the co-worker, from Office Space) and Erin Brown, whom some of you may recall working unter the name Misty Mundae... hubba hubba hubba.

More info: The Lost was directed by Chris Sivertson, and was based on a... sort of a book between true crime and a novel, by Jack Ketchum, which was based on an actual psycho killer named Charles Howard Schmid Jr. Also, it was produced by (among other people) Lucky McKee! OK, if you remember just a few of those details, you should be able to remember enough to find it someday in the future, if you ever want to. I will stick a link to it in here somewhere, too.

Anyway, I started out with a negative comment, but it isn't really a bad movie. It's about a somewhat charismatic bad boy psycho killer guy, who draws people into his orbit, and who kills a couple of women early in the movie.

After the murder (it was actually only one of the women who died right away, the other lived on as a vegatable for four years, until the day the action of the movie resumes)... after all that, a couple of local detectives feel sure that they know the psycho killer guy (named Ray) was the one who did it, but they need more proof, or for his friends to step forward and tell the truth.

The two detectives are each sort of funny, in different ways. The Michael Bowen detective character is funny because he farts, and because he goes out of his way to make it very clear to Ray that he knows he is the killer. This is probably a difficult temptation for him to resist, but it is also pretty damned stupid of him, as we will see. The other detective, played by Ed Lauter, is supposed to be about sixty years old, and is dating a girl who is supposed to be about twenty. They seem to really like each other, but it just looks disgusting to see them together. I kind of wanted to slap my TV when he was shown with her. They actors really did have a forty year age difference when they filmed the movie, although Ed was sixty seven and the girl was twenty seven. Yikes.

The psycho killer guy Ray can be kind of entertaining and even amusing to watch, but you see evidence over the course of the film that he did not learn any kind of lesson from getting away with killing the two women at the beginning. You can tell, he could do it again, or something comparably evil, at any moment. He has one relationship with a female old friend, and another with a girl he met who seems to be kind of a bad girl. He wants to have ANOTHER relationship with Ed the detective's young girlfriend, although she makes it clear she is not interested. Also, he would basically hump anything that moves... hey, can't fault a single (-ish) guy for that.

One interesting thing about this movie is that they keep it sort of difficult to tell what decde the action takes place in. The true story that it is based on happened in the 60s, but most scenes could take place in the 70s, 80s, 90s, or early 2000s. You hardly see any references to pop culture to help place the film in any particular decade. The ways they entertain themselves usually could fit in in any decade.... you'll see what I mean, if you watch it.

Another interesting thing is that I suspect Ray might have been the model for the evil leader of the band in Jennifer's Body.

Anyway, the movie is mostly sort of a slow burn, as you gradually get a sense of what Ray is like, and what his friends and associates are like. I don't want to wreck anything, but it has a DOOZY of an ending, so it is probably worth watching just for that.

Anyway, yah. Had to share.


🚸
avatar
#1

Feb 2023
I remember Misty Mundane, she is in one of my Favorite Master of Horror eps called Sick Girl. Not surprisingly directed by Lucky McKee, he must have been a fan of her earlier work although I think he's gay? What happened to that guy?


🚸
avatar
Tommix says:
#2, Reply to #1

Feb 2023
I think Box is a fan of Lucky's work. Box, any thoughts on this?


🚸
avatar
Box_a_Hair says:
#7, Reply to #2

Mar 2023
Haven't seen it yet! Been waiting for it to cross my path for a few years.


🚸
avatar
Tommix says:
#3, Reply to #1

Feb 2023
PS She went by Misty Mundae, not Misty Mundane.


🚸
avatar
#4, Reply to #3

Feb 2023
I know this, I didn't check and autocorrect got me.


🚸
avatar
Tommix says:
#5, Reply to #4

Feb 2023
That drives me up a $%*&#!ing wall, when that happens. Luckily it only happens to me three or four dozen times a day.


🚸
avatar
Tommix says:
#6, Reply to #1

Mar 2023 *
Another thing, about this movie, is that the character Sally really gets to me. I keep thinking about her. She really had an... well, I don't know if I should really call it an arc of development... she just went through such a hideous transformation over the course of the movie. She started out as an intelligent, poised young woman, living her life, making her own decisions... she seemed to really demand honesty from people in her life, and expected to be treated with respect. She was just a very sympathetic character, you root for her and hope things work out well for her. But by the last few minutes of the film, she could be the poster child for the expression "scared out of one's wits." She is just absolutely terrified of the psycho killer, and can't even think for herself anymore, and depends on the psycho killer to prompt her on what to say, what to think... eventually she does try to run away, and... I'm not even sure if she survives or not. If she does survive, she is in seriously rough shape. Anyway, YIKES, and major applause to actress Megan Henning for portraying her. That can't have been fun for her.


🚸
avatar
Tommix says:
#8

Mar 2023
I keep thinking about this movie. I just wanted to mention that if you see it and you like it, you might also like River's Edge (1986), and/or Bully (2001).


🚸
avatar
zed says:
#9, Reply to #8

Mar 2023
I'm still on the fence

Does dee wallace show her tits?


🚸
avatar
Tommix says:
#10, Reply to #9

Mar 2023
No, she is a sad old alcoholic wreck in The Lost. Not attractive. But Misty Mundae, who goes by Erin Brown in this, does indeed proudly display her hooters.


🚸
avatar
Box_a_Hair says:
#11

Mar 2023
I gave it a watch, and this is one twisted movie. Very fucked up. I mean, most of the movie is a pretty casually paced character study about some asshole named Ray, and this guy is a serious piece of shit. You want him to die a horrible death, but does he? The movie is rather inconclusive on that part, isn't it? It's inconclusive on everything! It abruptly ends and leaves you in WTF mode.

The cast is good though. I like Michael Bowen as the detective. He won me over when he farted. And Katherine (Robin Sydney) is a fox.

Jack Ketchum wrote some dark shit! While I do think the movies based on his works are good, I don't think I ever want to watch them again. Unless I'm in the mood to disturb someone.


🚸
avatar
Tommix says:
#12, Reply to #11

Mar 2023
I keep thinking about this movie. You have a lot of respect for Lucky McKee, don't you?? Or is it just for Spring Breakers specifically? Anyway, maybe you can detect his mind at work in this movie somewhere, possibly in the inconclusive ending, I don't know.

Michael Bowen's big fart scene was quite a moment. People should really meme the living daylights of of that fart.

No, seriously, I have actually spent precious moments of my finite lifespan thinking about that fart, and why they included it. I think it might have been to graphically illustrate that in some ways, the detectives were both sort of farting around in their quest to bring Ray to justice. I mean, they wanted him to screw up and get apprehended, but the fact was that they were still letting an unbelievably unstable and evil motherfucker walk around on the streets, for FOUR YEARS, until he finally went completely haywire. I don't know if I would exactly say that the movie has a moral to it, but if it does, maybe the moral was that they should have just thrown their own lives away four years earlier, right when they were sure that Ray was the killer (even though they couldn't prove it in court). I mean, maybe they should have just chosen to shoot him in cold blood and either gone to prison for it or killed themselves after killing Ray, just to get the guy off the streets. That would clearly have been better than what actually ended up happening.

I had a similar thought process about the character Sally. I'm not sure if we are supposed to think that there is a moral to be learned from what happened to her, but I do think that what she probably should have done was... this sentence is getting too long.

What she should have done was, as soon as she realized that she had come up on the radar of an incredibly unstable psycho killer, she should have IMMEDIATELY gotten in her car and started driving hundreds of miles in some random direction without telling anyone where she was going, then changed her name, gotten an unlisted phone number, and never gone back to Ray's home turf until after he was dead or in jail. That would have been the only way she could have survived, I think. Of course, financial concerns made that course of action impossible, so... I guess she was just living a tragedy from the beginning, without knowing it.

I know what you mean about how so much of the movie is a casual character study of Ray. I have been thinking about that. The way they frame so much of the movie, with light, entertaining music and just scenes of Ray and the people around him living their normal daily lives... I think it might be intended to dramatize how we can all get very accustomed to what should be absolutely intolerable situations. Ray was a known killer, but somehow everyone around him talked themselves into the idea that somehow they would get the upper hand eventually, or that Ray would eventually voluntarily submit to the rules of civilized society. Several of the characters got all cutesy with Ray, needling him subtly and toying with him, when what they should have done was just killed him, even if it meant the end of their own lives as free people.

As you can tell, this movie kind of got to me. Yeesh.


🚸
avatar
Box_a_Hair says:
#13, Reply to #12

Mar 2023
Lucky McKee has absolutely nothing to do with Spring Breakers. emoticon I've liked a fair amount of what I've seen from him though.

That fart was a poignant commentary on the shortcomings of the justice system. You pretty much nailed it with the whole "farting around" remark. Even if there are money troubles, these people should have gotten far the fuck away from Ray, even before the initial scene. The guy was an incredibly unstable douche.



Loading...


Loading...
@ am
You have reached the end of Trash Epics.