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Mar '19 *
Since my rant used like 12 shouts I guess I'll just post it all here.

Look, Troma's and I's beef is between us. You guys don't know the vial PM's he had sent, nor the hatred he has stirred up. According to him Box is just a little bitch and I'm nothing more than a giant pussy. There is no place for that here. Yes I changed my avatar. I think it's funny and was a response to him claiming I'm trying to replace him and changing his title to be a passive aggressive dig at box and I. I could have just had a long yelling and pissing match with him on here as we have done before and cause more shit, but instead I turned my avatar into a joke. I'm sorry if that somehow offends you Markus, but no one owes Troma loyalty here. If you want to leave, I can't stop you, but I do like what you contribute and you seem to be a pretty swell guy. I really hope that my attempt to make Troma and I's spat more light hearted doesn't run you off. He accuses me of abbusing power, but it is he and only he who has abbused powers and editted accounts and posts to be a dick (which is why he started losing priviledges in the first place).


I want to be very clear. I'm not here to dictate anything. Or tell anyone how to post or exist. My powers here are reserved, of my own volition, for the unfortunate cermumstance that Box is unnable to run things or dies. That is it. Other than that I really hold, and desire to hold, no priviledges or power over you all. I am opinionated, but please and I want to be very clear, understand that my opinions are not backed, nor enforced by my privileedges on here. I have never, and will never use my priviledges to change post or stiffle an opinion. If I say I think something, it's just that; my thoughts. Don't think or fear I'm going to force them or enforce them in anyway shape or form. That being said I love you all and really do aprriciate what everyone contributes to this site. I care a lot for @Box and this site means so much to him. I've seen him put years of real time into this site and I in no way aim to hurt that.

@Markus, I'm sorry you think we have beef. Until this morning I honestly thought we were cool. I get if you are just backing Troma, but as far as you and I squashing a beef, well I didn't know we had one to squash, but if we do just PM me; let's chat. I thought Johan and I were a tad at odds the other day and we just spent 30 minutes chatting and getting to know each other and now I think the world of Johan, and I hope his opinion of me is better for yeterday's chat.

I really do just want a better site for us all.

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Gymnopedie says:
#1

Mar '19 *
Look, these things are unfortunate. It is none of my business what beef goes on between users. I like everyone here. I have had my issues with a few things here in the past namely that divisive Kevin Van Hentenryck thread. I think we just need to take a deep breath, dust ourselves down and make this site great.


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DerTables says:
#2, Reply to #1

Mar '19 *
That thread is where a lot of this started... I really want to move away from things like that and work toward a much more open and loving site.


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Gymnopedie says:
#3, Reply to #2

Mar '19
I am all for that, a more open inclusive environment to talk about horror movies. In my humble opinion; for whatever it is worth: that thread was a terrible miscalculation, straight away it divided many people, and diminished the harmonization here.


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DerTables says:
#4, Reply to #3

Mar '19
The really harm was the ridicule of people who didn't like it. I don't mind the thread, I mind someone insulting people that don't though.


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Gymnopedie says:
#6, Reply to #4

Mar '19 *
Right, it almost seemed like their opinions weren't welcome if they held different views. I know of at least four users who left because of this.

In any case, we move on from this. I am reading a really great book; Into the Wild - a true story about this idealistic young man who gave up his materialistic possessions and decided to live in the wild - the woods. Marvellous book.


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foz says:
#15, Reply to #6

Mar '19
thats chris mccandless i think, not read the book, but the film of the same title is well worth a watch. cool eddie vedder score too. they do make him out to be way cooler than he apparently was, but hey, emile hirsh does a great job in the role


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Gymnopedie says:
#18, Reply to #15

Mar '19
Great book and film. Yeah, he seemed pretty profound and deep. I feel like packing my bags, leaving behind my possessions, and doing the same thing!


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foz says:
#19, Reply to #18

Mar '19
hah! maybe not exactly the same thing...


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Gymnopedie says:
#20, Reply to #19

Mar '19
No, hah!


Mar '19
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DerTables says:
#7, Reply to #5

Mar '19
That's fair, but again my role is a technical one, and there is a reason I am user #2, before Troma or Onyx on TE there was just Der and Renzo. Before the horor boards fell, there was Renzo and Der with this idea of Trash Epics, of Gutterland and "Kick the Bucket" and "Hobo with a Fence". The site became a haven for the fallen imdb boards, but we were working on this long before they fell. It was 99% Renzo in the begginning and still 98% Renzo, but I have no interest in moderating a board. I'm not here to descide day to day thing. I'm a big picture guy. I help delevope some of the features on the site (Next we are working on a facebook like chat pop up at the bottom of each page for the shout box). I have always been here though, even when I didn't post (again mainly because of not wanting to get into it with the two of them), but I was here. Right next to Box the entire time this site has existed. I have always been #2 and always will be. It's in no way a superiority thing, but unless someone else wants to come help code and delvelope and brainstorm (things Troma has no idea how to do) that is my role here. I have wanted to be more present on the site, but everytime I do Troma tries to start something and muscle me out. Every time, year after year after year for the last 6 years! So this time I'd had enough and I stuck by my guns and didn't run away to keep peace. I stayed and I'm trying new things here. Troma cares way to much about being top dog and incharge of everything. He speaks for everyone when no one has asked him too. The reality is he wants to run the site, he has said as much and practically said he would ruin the site if Box didn't do what ever Troma said. Troma wants this to be his own site, but doesn't want to put the time, effort (and yes money) it takes to actually create his own site, nor does he have the skill set too.


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Gymnopedie says:
#8, Reply to #7

Mar '19
but it is he and only he who has abbused powers and editted accounts and posts to be a dick (which is why he started losing priviledges in the first place).

he has said as much and practically said he would ruin the site


If that is the case; that is pretty fucked up. A mod behaving this way.


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Ballz says:
#9, Reply to #8

Mar '19
That stuff about ruining the site stood out to me as well. I don't know what to think or believe.


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Gymnopedie says:
#10, Reply to #9

Mar '19
Yes, I had to read over it twice to make sure I got it right. Utterly disgraceful behaviour if that is the case.


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DerTables says:
#11, Reply to #9

Mar '19
Look, I'm not going to make Troma's PMs public (although let's remember that he did that to me), but when I read something he sent to @Box I was livid and about ready to go down to Florida.


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Gymnopedie says:
#12, Reply to #11

Mar '19
That is really eye-opening, Der. He always liked to exhibit control and power over on the IMDb horror forum, but I didn't think he was like this. I feel sorry for Box.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#13, Reply to #12

Mar '19
I don't want people to feel sorry for me. I just want them to understand all the shit I've gone through to try to maintain peace, but it never seems to work, and I get blamed for it.

I wish Troma would stay on the site, but he has a very low opinion of me these days. He'd rather get mad about technical aspects he doesn't quite understand, and push people into a predicament of choosing sides. I hate sides. We're all supposed to be on the same side here.


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Gymnopedie says:
#14, Reply to #13

Mar '19 *
It's unfortunate. You did the best you could, it's all people can ask for under the circumstances. If others aren't willing to reconcile their differences, then that is their loss. It sucks that this has made people choose sides.


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foz says:
#16, Reply to #13

Mar '19
you're good, man


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DerTables says:
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Mar '19
Just an FYI, my status is now "Developer" to help clear up any comfusion about my wanting to be a mod. (Again 0 desire to mod the site)



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