Flippin loved the first series of True Detective. Mac n Woody were on fine form & the whole thing was excellent all round, well written, beautifully shot, almost perfect. The second season was... uneven. Hope that hasn't killed the series.

Didn't mind The Following, tho i do think it's a rare example of the pilot being the best ep in the entire series. Bacon, Purefoy & Curry were all decent, but don't think it's Kev Williamson's best writing.

Aquarius i have not heard of, but interested in Manson so will check it out, thanks Box

what is Bosch if not a drill?

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Hahaha, TPB is indeed fantastic, not sure about 'best crime show ever' but certainly best North American comedy of the century!

Of the ones i've seen pretty much completely agree with you. Love Oz even if (like Dexter) it jumps the shark after season 4 and never recovers. Atkins is great, but for badass evil nazi JK Simmons steals every scene he's in. Also when Oz came out late 90s a lot of the techniques they used were innovative and original, not sure how well it dates 20 years on, but for anyone who hasn't seen it still worth a look.

I watched both Mr Mercedes & Mindhunter recently, the former featured great performances from Gleeson & a Treadaway twin, like you say not that graphic but there's a scene in the pilot where context and sound are as effective as graphic gore. Gleeson could be great value this month, featuring in fantastic crime comedies like The Guard, Calvary & In Bruges.

Mindhunter was a bit talky i guess, do find the whole evolution of the FBI fascinating tho and it was interesting to see how they fictionalised scenes with real killers. There's a good one on Netflix focusing on the FBI chase for the Unabomber called 'Manhunter'.

For some reason i never got past season 3 of SOA, remember them going to Ireland but i drifted away, should get back on it. Also need to check out that Aquarius you mentioned, and Twin Peaks Return. And Punicher. Actually that last one's on Netflix so perfect for this month.

Some quality recs there Box, might start a similar thread but focusing on films...

Which 'The Killing' did you see? I've only watched the Danish one, which i enjoyed, not sure if the eng lang will be different enough to bother with.

The Night Of looks good, loved Ahmed in Four Lions & Tuturro's always great, will get on it thanks!

ive seen Broadchurch (minus the definate article) it's ok, a bit tamer and more family drama than most titles mentioned. thought it suffered after the first season from the 'how many crimes/tragedies/dramatic stuff can happen to the same families in the same small village' syndrome. if that's a thing. Colman n Tenant are good together, dodgy aaccent from Dr Who mind...

oof, tricky one - i can tell you how the body is on the beach, but i cant remember when thats revealed - i think its more toward the finale, so if you are not there yet i don't want to spoil.

I'm not from the Cornwall/Devon area, but as a Brit i can tell that some the actors accents are very poor, whi i can only assume adds to difficulty comprehending for people not familiar with the 'oo arr' accent!

Haha! the detective is David Tennant who is actually Scottish and the only main actor in the show speaking in thier 'usual' voice. He's pretty good at accents and most of his work I've seen he speaks with a decent English accent, it's the one's who are supposed to be from the Broadchurch area who don't convince. Saying that I can totally understand how a Scots accent could be hard to grasp, and yeah I agree the show's ok but not amazing, I ended up watching all 3 seasons but in honesty you don't miss much if you stop after the first.

You've sold me on The Night Of, looks like that & The Punisher will dominate my month.

EDIT** ive just realised my comment about 'Dr Who' in the earlier reply could be construed to be about ol Scots Davey T. I meant the new Doctor - Jodie Whittaker - who's SouthWest drawl is cringeworthy. 2 Dr Whos in one Church, who'da thunk it.

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I've not seen that either, but heard good things & comparisons to The Soprano's which isn't a bad thing.