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Mar 2022
It's a wise choice to separate Batman from the rest of DC's shitty characters. The Snyder movies suck and Ben Affleck is a joke, proving that Batman works better as a standalone character. The most interesting part of Batman is that he isn't a superhero. He's simply very good at what he does, so there's no need to bog him down with magic and mysticism. He's an armored vigilante detective, and that's what this movie is all about.

From early on, I knew this movie was the type of Batman movie I wanted. Sure, the Nolan movies were great, but their version of Gotham is still pretty clean and sterile compared to the world Reeves creates. Nolan was said to have been inspired visually by Blade Runner, and while there's definitely a lot more evident Blade Runner aesthetic in Reeves' movie, I think it's safe to say he had an arguably stronger influence from Alex Proyas's The Crow. Gotham City nights are rainy, drenched in a black and orange Halloween palette.

The film begins on Halloween and lingers for a few days into November. Batman has established himself as a brooding force to be reckoned with, while Bruce Wayne is a recluse who has no time for his family business. None of the other movies tackled the idea of him being a detective, and that's who he always has been, first and foremost. Hell, he does hail from Detective Comics. He's never been so much of a detective as he was someone who conveniently cracked a vital clue on a whim. The Batman is a street-level crime noir about a Zodiac-inspired madman holding a city secret hostage while crime families get implicated. Batman gets into it with them, and a story unfolds.

It's the tone that really makes it. The film shows the underbelly of Gotham like we've never seen before. It's somber, hopeless, creepy, artsy, guerilla, and grunge at the same time. The casting proves flawless, and somehow, this movie does the unthinkable. It has a memorable score! Holy shit, Hollywood! Take a cue!

There are certain aspects of Batman mythology that are omitted. I wont point them out, but you'll notice their absence, but it wont bother you. You wont miss those aspects that can convolute the plot, because the pacing keeps you on track. It doesn't feel like 3 hours. I was waiting for a whole next act, which must mean that I didn't quite realize that I was at the end of the movie as it was ending, but maybe that's a good thing? Maybe it means Hollywood is starting to get experimental again? Maybe it means I'm dumb as shit?

One thing is for sure. This movie is an experience. There was a lot of hype over the last few years. I think people were willing to give Pattinson the benefit of the doubt, and even I wasn't sure about him once I saw the costume, but I began to love the design as I saw it in action.

Nolan's effort was a game-changer, undeniably. Once that comic-movie barrier was broken and these movies realized they could be more cinematic and less kiddie-centric, comic movies could be trusted to make both a high box office and favorable reviews. I don't think kids would understand this movie. They make toys and action figures for this demographic who probably wont stay awake throughout the whole thing, but this movie isn't made for them at all. The crew said it was pushing PG-13 to the limits, but we'd probably never notice what those limits are on account of the shit we watch. It never felt pussified though. I'm not sure an R-rated cut would have had much more of an impact than the version we got, but I certainly wouldn't oppose one. DC actually makes movies for adults, in case you've forgotten. If it's a Batman spin-off, they'll risk an R-rating, but I'm not sure we'll ever see live-action Batman himself in something greater than PG-13 because they want those youngins in the seats.

Way to go, WB. You've reinvented the same character for the dozenth time, and you STILL have my interest. Sequel? Yes please. Penguin show ordered on HBO MAX? Yes please. Collin Farrell is clearly inspired by De Palma and Scorsese crime figures, which is a great thing. Riddler was a total creep with a good twist, and Catwoman was sexy again. Anne Hathaway was completely unmemorable, so Zoe finally channeled the amazing Pfeiffer performance that everyone since has been ignoring. Alfred's there too, but he doesn't have much time to shine. Finally, the last notable character is Jeffrey Wright's Jim Gordon, who's basically as perfect of a fit for the character as Gary Oldman.

Subsequent viewings may easily confirm the idea that this movie will beat out the Nolan movies. It's Batman as he needs to be, without the Bruce Wayne subplots bogging him down. It looks like Chicago, but feels like a dream. The city really takes on a life of its own, and it's these vibes that make The Batman a great way to kill 3 hours.


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markus-san says:
#1

Mar 2022 *
Good review, glad you enjoyed it and yeah I'll be seeing it some time next week hopefully. And yeah, without the kids...

A lot of Gotham was shot in UK cities like Glasgow and Liverpool which I found interesting, unlike the Nolan movies which were shot mostly in Chicago. I guess it might give it more of that dark, gothic, industrial, rain-drenched aesthetic which the director was obviously going for by the sounds of it.

Going back to the ratings, I mentioned it's a 15 over here but a PG-13 over there. By the sounds of it, it warrants its 15 certificate then. You probably already know this but our equivalent is a 12A which any kid can go with a parent but our 15 is not as lenient as your R rating. No one under 15 can watch it regardless of whether an adult is in attendance. And our 18 is basically a hard R. Still, that never stopped me from letting my kids watch certain movies of course emoticon.

Oh and I didn't hate Snyder's cut of Justice League. I thought it was a vast improvement over the original. It looks incredible. I spent more time admiring its visuals then anything to do with the, well pretty dull storyline. I do agree that Affleck's Batman will always suck though.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#5, Reply to #1

Mar 2022
My grandparents lived in Chicago, so I always found the city's look pretty interesting and recognizable in movies. TDK focused on the more open areas of the city, where Batman Begins had a lot more of that claustrophobic tight-spaced under-the-el-train settings, and that's what the new movie adheres to, seemingly nailing it even more this time around.

The Batman is basically made for adults. I think a lot of it will go over kid's heads, who will only regain interest when he fights bad guys, and he does that well. The fight scenes are better choreographed than Nolan's movies for damn sure. Nolan often did quick cuts because he wanted to capture that element of surprise and confusion on the enemies, but The Batman revels in the punishment, or "vengeance". Otherwise, there's a lot of P.I. work and mood that might make kids squirm in their seats as they get impatient waiting for more mindless Batman action. And I'm not necessarily saying the movie is slow either. Somehow, the pacing worked perfectly for me.


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jimb14red says:
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Mar 2022 *
It's funny I know I am in the minority but I completely disagree with everything you said about Snyder, Affleck and Hathaway etc. I still loved this movie like you though.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#3, Reply to #2

Mar 2022
Ben Affleck was probably the best thing about those Synder movies, and while he's still better than Clooners, I can still safely say I don't want him. Hathaway seemed super generic to me. She nails the undependable backstabbing aspect, but I felt no chemistry between her and Bale, and her outfit had no personality. I guess I don't hate her for the part, but I definitely forget her in the backseat compared to Bane's role.


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jimb14red says:
#4, Reply to #3

Mar 2022
Yeah thought Affleck was a perfect Batman and think the Snyder Cuts of Batman Vs Superman and Justice League are 2 of the best Superhero movies of the last 10 years. I actually prefer them to just about all the movies in the first 4 phases of the MCU except maybe Winter Soldier. I do know my opinion on this is not shared by many if any.😁


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Box_a_Hair says:
#6, Reply to #4

Mar 2022
I think a lot of the MCU movies will be evaluated less favorably in time. Mostly due to them being so goddamn formulaic. If you've seen one, you can predict all the rest, because the studio wasn't taking chances with the material, until Fox changed that. Then got silenced. It's been changing again lately, as Batman tends to trump a lot of Marvel properties because he's more focused and finite in scope. He doesn't have to worry about crossovers and the events of multiple other movies in an extended universe, so his efforts can be a lot more focused. Even in the Snyder movies, then never had as many standalone movies to bog him down, but I simply prefer my Batman to be a loner who doesn't need to the one unpowered guy in a Justice League who's out of his element.


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jimb14red says:
#8, Reply to #6

Mar 2022 *
Will never happen but I want both. Would love to have Batman/Affleck continue in the Snyder verse and have Pattenson's Batman to continue separately.

I wish they did Batman vs Deathstroke with Affleck.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#9, Reply to #8

Mar 2022
The more Batmen, the merrier. Isn't Affleck rumored to appear in the next Flash (which has been pushed back to next year)? And I'm definitely interested in seeing Keaton's return. They can put out a lot of different Batman (and Spider-Man) movies and people wont complain. That way, people can opt to follow their own canon while the super nerds will undoubtedly follow them all.


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jimb14red says:
#10, Reply to #9

Mar 2022
I think he has a small cameo/part in that but that is supposed to the last time he suits up as Batman.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#11, Reply to #10

Mar 2022
Pretty sure he's said he was done a few times, but I think enough money will coerce him out of that cynicism. I'm still not sure what the status of the Snyder-verse is. Peacemaker spun off of it, but apparently deviates enough that it's no longer considered part of it (I haven't seen it yet). I read that the new Flash will also possibly erase it, so who knows. The problem with the multiverse is that nothing is ever truly consistent, even between seemingly related continuities.


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Tromafreak says:
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Mar 2022
I've never seen this.



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