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Jul 2021
Why? Because it's the 4th of July, and John Connor is going to get murdered by the T-850 on July 4th, 2032, so it's barely relevant!


T2 left a big set of shoes to fill, and it took 12 years before they shat out another movie, so it had to be good, right? Well, sorta.

Since James Cameron and Linda Hamilton refused involvement (and Eddie Furlong was a junkie at the time), this one relies solely on Arnold's star power, which is enough to make it a passable entry. Surely, without our epic cast and crew from the previous entries, we needed to beef up our storytelling with this entry, so who better to write this movie than the guys who wrote Married with Children and Halle Berry's Catwoman?

Yeah, that's a real head-scratcher right there... what's even more confusing is how they hired these guys back to write the next movie too, but we're not talking about that piece of shit. We're talking about T3, Arnold's last big movie before he ran off to destroy California or whatever he was doing for 8 years.



So with Cyberdyne destroyed, our writers decided to demean the ending of T2 by saying those fuckers didn't do a good enough job and thus spawned a near identical company, Cyber Research Systems, to fill in. What we get is a total rehash of T2 with less humanity and more explosions.

With that said, it isn't all bad. I really hate how every subsequent entry creates an even more powerful and more ridiculous impervious killing machine, as if the T-800 wasn't enough, but she (the T-X) does alright I guess. I remember being at a Terminator panel in 2014 and Robert Patrick was hitting on Kristanna Loken. That was pretty funny. She's okay as the villain, but definitely overpowered and nonsensical. Her robot is also kind of horny, and you can see her getting off sometimes, which is pretty fuckin' weird for a robot.

Nick Stahl plays John this time around, and he bears a stronger resemblance to Michael Biehn than Furlong. I have no beef with him in the role since he's a pretty good actor. Claire Danes is shoe-horned into the role of empowered woman because the writers probably needed to rewrite Sarah's role for her.

Since history was "changed", our continuity is a bit off, but it's passable. Our 2029 "history" in which Skynet's defense grid was smashed and "we'd won" is now considered an alternate timeline, and our main travelers come from 2032. Whatever keeps the story going, right?

I'm also very stumped as to why this movie had so much comedy in it. Like seriously, wtf? The original movie was bleak and haunting, and this one feels compelled to throw in some comic relief every few minutes. Then part 4 didn't have ANY comedy, and then part 5 had even MORE comedy...

Fortunately, the movie redeems itself with a downer ending that paves the way for what must happen to avoid anymore paradoxes: Judgment Day. What's also unique about this movie is that is was still following the primary continuity. It wasn't part of that shitty trend of picking and choosing which movies you were going to follow and which ones you were going to ignore. It simply followed the previous movie, which is what sequels used to do.

I definitely feel that this movie lacked the depth and complexity of the first two movies, but as an irrational terminator fan, I overlook these things because I'm obsessive. It's not a great Terminator movie, but it is a great Arnold movie.


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Tromafreak says:
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Jul 2021
The "talk to the hand" line was cringy, but "No... I am not shitting you" was pretty funny. But yeah, there was a noticeable bit of unwelcomed humor thrown in here I guess to fill the void of that missing apocalyptic vibe. A step down but not considered a failure like the last 2 installments. Pretty enjoyable. Far from perfect but doesn't deserve to be ignored. I feel like they could have stood to put a little more thought into girl Terminator as she was mainly just a T-1000 with an extra feature or 2.

I still think this movie should have been the end of the Arnold trilogy and they should have gone on to do a post-Judgement Day trilogy (without him) and just stay on track so we can see how this whole thing ends up. Despite the last 2 movies having their moments, it's insane what they've done. Hell, even if this series finally does wrap up some day, it won't be the REAL ending unless it's a direct sequel to Salvation. And literally nobody wants that! emoticon


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Box_a_Hair says:
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Jul 2021
I think Arnold adds an authenticity to even the worst installments, but I agree that he's definitely outlived his purpose in the series. In fact, his presence helped the writers be lazy since they didn't have to try anything new. They figured they'd shoe-horn him in, and that always lead to a rehashed plot, which really saddens me because this series had so much potential to explore uncharted territories.

Why is it that the only movie to try something different sucked ass (cuz of massive producer interference) and the neglected tv show had a LOT of great ideas and gets cancelled?

When it comes to T2 follow ups, I'd still put The Sarah Connor Chronicles above all. Sure, that wasn't perfect (too many filler episodes), but it definitely left a lasting impact on me whereas the other sequels are forgettable. The only thing really great about any of them is Arnold, and even though he needs to be written out of the series, it would still be pretty awesome if he made a terminator movie in 2029. In fact, if Hollywood doesn't shit out another terminator in THAT EXACT year, it'll be the biggest wasted opportunity of all time.


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