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Dec 2019
I notice a lot of people are arguing. We have different personality types on here, and some can be grating to others, while others will resonate like no other. Personally, I like everyone on here. In some way or another, I think that everyone on here has some sort of charm to them, be it epic or minute. After all, we all came on here because we had one of the following interests: the imdb message boards, the horror board more specifically, or the site admin guilt tripped you into joining. Either way, I attribute that to the site having some sort of merit. Some have taken a vague look and walked the other way. Others have seen that maybe... just maybe... we're onto something.

Trash Epics stands for a lot of things. I've rambled on about what it means to me, but everyone here has to think about what it means for them. What do they want out of it? That's what I would like to know. That's what I want to be able to provide on here, but I'm not the best with confrontations. I see people taking jabs at each other, and I tend to get caught in the middle a lot. I really don't want to be in the middle of anything, because my mind is always on my projects. What I view to be the bigger picture. My life typically revolves around trash epics in some way or another. The only thing that motivates me is how I can put my trash and horror fandom to use and make it mean something.



With all that said, I really wish people would get over themselves. If I'm being brought into it, that's some dumb shit, because I'm an introvert. I don't want to hang out with anybody. You guys are okay obviously, because we're not actually hanging out or anything. We're relaying opinions based on common interests among people who are supposed to have some sort of understanding among each other. Even when people troll, there's a code of conduct and liberties that can be taken. Trolls can be reported, and accounts can be blocked. But how can you handle that in a wild-west website where we're all about being sleazy?


I just told everyone on here that they're cool in my book, but there are times when I'm pitted up against certain parties. If I choose to side with Team A, then Team B puts a boycott on me. It's happened to me a lot on the site, now in my personal life. I fucking hate it. I find myself with friends one day, and enemies the other, and I don't understand how this type of thing happens. I still don't grasp why some of my favorite people on here choose to detest me on account of the people I associate myself with. I wish it would stop, but I strive to build something better in spite of all the shit that floods this place.

Are people that willing to let this niche community die off? What makes any one of us so bad? I could people out and roast them, but I wont do that. Well, maybe just a little...

Der and I have an understanding. We're dude-bros, and while I think that he does start some shit to get a rise out of people here, I think that only some people are offended, while others are mildly amused. Many of us have been using message boards for a chunk of our lives and are aware of their mechanics. Every board has its trolls, but there are work arounds.

Sometimes, you simply don't care where you are, so long as there are some honest types around. Some of our users understand this more than others. If you're one of the laid back ones who believes in keeping the discussion alive, then you get it. As long as we provide relevant content, we at least serve a purpose: to educate the world on exploitive horror trash. I wouldn't mind if Der refrained from personal insults and defamation claims, but I'm not a dictator and I have real world problems to worry about. I refuse to take sides because if you're giving me the ultimatum, then what kind of friend are you?


Snowy shouldn't speak for me on the shoutbox. I speak for myself, and only when I damn well mean to. There are always sides to any story, but personal drama should stay the fuck off of Trash Epics. If anyone wants to bring this shit up, then take a good hard look in the mirror and ask, "What for?"

Life's too short to waste it all arguing with goddamn internet trolls. I'm sorry if some of you feel that your TE neighbors are obnoxious tools, but don't put that shit on me. Figure out a better way to deal with it, because the block feature doesn't seem to phase anybody on here.


I don't imagine that Ballz would want to be brought into this either. I'll admit, a few of my core family/friends are users here, and they're flat-out incompatible with each other. I don't know how to handle it. I want my friends and family on here, but they clash a lot, and it puts me in a spin. In the end, I really only want to code stuff and talk about horror stuff, but we get sidetracked a lot. Sidetracked into me having to 'splain myself, and how I wish people wouldn't air their dirty laundry in my dirty shoutbox, but in the end... that's probably just some trash being epic.

Care to tell me how wrong I am? Or better yet, sidetrack this thread with a Family Guy type cutaway.



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Snowy_Owl says:
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Dec 2019 *
I apologize for speaking for you, I wasn't trying to. I just get protective. And I'm extremely sorry for all the drama and personal stuff I have said. I am only trying to keep the peace. I don't want you to have to choose sides, but I do personally think you need to get on here and put people in there place at time, even if that includes me. Because we all get into stupid arguments, and sometimes we need to be told when we are wrong, and need to stop.

I think the world of you, and TrashEpics is amazing. I love it here and don't want to leave. I'm always here for you. What was said in the shout box was wrong to even say in something so public, I should not have stooped to insults after I was hurt.

And I will try not to bring you into things again.

As for ballz, i don't remember anyone bringing him to things. He did get on there himself at one point.

Anyway, from now on I will stay out of the drama. I will no longer try to keep the peace or anything. I will just be a TE user, and keep moving along.


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sfpx says:
#2

Dec 2019
This made me LOL

I wish people wouldn't air their dirty laundry in my dirty shoutbox


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Ballz says:
#3

Dec 2019 *
I don't imagine that Ballz would want to be brought into this either.


Nope. I try to avoid drama, but sometimes the urge to call someone out on their drama is too strong. The good news is, for better or worse, I tend to move on fast. I have too much other shit I'd rather do than waste time holding grudges on the internet.


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Johan_WoW says:
#4

Dec 2019
I have to agree with Snowy with the keep people in line argument. I have no trouble with you Box, I never had. I don't hold you responsible for this site losing traffic and members. I wouldn't say that Der is the culprit either since people have been leaving before he got more active.
However I stand by my opinion that having your family members around is not a good idea. Der and your sister might say I'm passive aggressive and I guess that's true.

I have been gone (I hardly even checked the site) for more than half a year because of Der. When you allowed me back in I told myself I just am not going to get into an argument with Der and I would avoid talking to him. Since he wasn't very active on here things went smoothly. Of course when he becomes more active like now for example participating in the horror draft I was already worried. It went well until Der started to complain about a fake list I put up. I explained him why but than he said he would so vote for the fake list and it made me realize: this dude hasn't changed a bit. He is still going all dramatic when things don't go his way or to his liking. If there were some personal problems I would understand people being upset. But it's just a fucking game.

Thx again to Bambi she brought the solution. I'll do this draft and hope to end it without any more drama. But I'm going to be brutally honest with you and would feel more comfortable around when Der remains passive on here. If he can't control his temper, wants to act like a dick or spoiled brat I will bite back. I have been hosting drafts, challenges for years now so I think I'm capable enough for the job. If he likes to do things his way he can start his own project or doesn't have to participate in mine. And if that has negative consequences for me, well I'll just accept those.

You are the man in charge, you created this place for trash lovers, imdb horror refugees etc. I don't know how many more family members you have on here but I think you are the onewho is most knowledgable about trash and horror of them. Everyone on here is grateful to you.


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markus-san says:
#5

Dec 2019 *
The only drama around here is caused by Der. 99% of the time. It's only a "staple of TE" because he makes it so. But honestly, you seem to be blind to it as this post pretty much proves. It's not "a lot of people arguing" at all. Don't put this on others. There was no arguing before Der became active here again. Snowy needed to speak up, someone had to and at least she had the balls to do it.


Dec 2019
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Box_a_Hair says:
#16, Reply to #5

Dec 2019
Yes markus, I know you think I'm as blind as a bat, but I see what happens on here. I know that der instigates a lot of shit, and I'm tired of defending it. He likes to jump into attack mode, though most of us here are pacifists who don't want to get into it with anyone.

I've dabbled with the idea of putting der on everyone's ignore list. Then, he would be a hidden bonus feature, like an easter egg. He would be an invisible man, if you will. If he burns himself out, he'll disappear for a while and peace will be restored to the land. Otherwise, I might have to banish him to a parallel dimension on Trash Epics where all you can do is clerical work while your background is hardcoded strobing lights.


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markus-san says:
#18, Reply to #16

Dec 2019
I've dabbled with the idea of putting der on everyone's ignore list.


That would be a pretty good idea actually.

Otherwise, I might have to banish him to a parallel dimension


Even better emoticon.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#19, Reply to #18

Dec 2019
I can totes do it, dawg. Invert all his colors and make everything backwards like this https://trashepics.com/?egg_mirror


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Snowy_Owl says:
#20, Reply to #19

Dec 2019
Wow that was trippy... my eyes hurt a little lol


Dec 2019
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Gymnopedie says:
#8

Dec 2019
People not happy, fighting..

It seems this year we have had a lot of drama. Every year that passes our userbase shrinks, no more than this year. We lost a lot of users, that is sad. I guess next year we just try to survive, we just try to keep our head above water - we can't do anything else.


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Tommix says:
#9, Reply to #8

Dec 2019
I keep hoping they will come back. It's possible!


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Snowy_Owl says:
#10, Reply to #8

Dec 2019 *
Honestly, I am not sure they will come back, if every time a draft or game or challenge is running and someone loses their mind and starts drama. I mean I have only been on here for a little over a year, and the pattern holds.

Look at the sci-fi challenge, the horror draft, the music draft, the documentary challenge, the sci-fi draft this year, and again the horror draft.

It's always frustrating when we try to have fun, and people get upset because they do not get their way.


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ZombieCPA says:
#11

Dec 2019
I avoided the Horror Draft because it always ends out in weeping and gnashing of teeth.


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Snowy_Owl says:
#12, Reply to #11

Dec 2019
Wow. That's really sad, and I agree with you. My main reason for not joining until I asked was because I didn't want to get sucked into the drama I knew would ensue. These are supposed to be fun, and now we can't even do simple things without it turning into a big fight. I'm sorry zombie...


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Znep27 says:
#13, Reply to #12

Dec 2019
I almost pulled out when I saw a certain person was participating, because I knew there would be a huge scene. But I decided, eh, I'm still gonna have to see the scene happen whether I play or not.


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Snowy_Owl says:
#14, Reply to #13

Dec 2019
Yeah that is true. I'm happy I joined because it's been mostly fun! Nothing bothered me until the fighting arose, and I tried to keep peace. I think no matter what we do there will always be fighting on them. Always


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Johan_WoW says:
#15

Dec 2019
Well it seems your family members took a decision for the good of this site.


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peeptoad says:
#17

Dec 2019
sorry to hear there is still drama here, but it is the good, old "www" after all... we are also living in difficult political times, but the cure for that is easy to fix: don't read or watch the news no matter how badly your neurotransmitters seem to need the fix. The sky isn't falling, life won't end tomorrow, and hey, N Korea might nuke us on Christmas day, but eh... I've lived a good life until now. It is what it is...



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