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Oct '19
The original Halloween is cemented in horror history as a classic slasher film. An "immortal classic" if you will... Nothing can top it, and even part 2 is a solid follow-up, albeit ignored in modern continuity. But that anthology idea took things to a new direction... Halloween could have been a totally different series if Season of the Witch took off in the way that the creators intended.

I remember when I was a kid and I saw VHS copies of Halloween 3, and I absolutely did NOT understand how that movie existed. I feel that most people still don't understand how H3 exists in any continuity, but I was always fascinated by the artwork. Just look at it... Some weird looking witch whose hair turns into the logo, with those classic pumpkin/skeleton/witch masks...

Somehow, this flick channeled the spirit of Halloween more than a lot of movies did, even the Myers series. This one had trick or treaters across the country, Tom Atkins, Stacy Nelkin, robots, Dick Warlock, actual warlocks, Dan O'Herlihy, masks, and an Irish influences throughout.

A prominent influence of the movie was Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and I'm talking the original 1956 version with the city of Santa Mira. I love the vibe of it. I view it as an essential Halloween film for the season, but I can't quite pinpoint why.

In a sense, I expect that I might love it so much because of its misfit status. It has a cult following because of its different nature, and people never quite understood it when it came out. However, in recent years, the internet has proved that it's reputation has grown somewhat significantly. I suspect that this might be due to John Carpenter fanboyisms and the general sense that older movies gain more notoriety as they age, but I was always fascinated by this movie's approach. It has an interesting history, if you're one to read the trivia behind it and the themes it proposes.

I remember first seeing this movie circa '98, when H20 was on its way. The series was gaining a reputation as a never-ending horror epic, and this bastard played on TV. I didn't get it, but I was still fascinated to ponder on its relevance in the series. Obviously, it seemed to have NO relevance, but a fan could dream, and somehow, this movie lingered in my brain for years to come, because somehow, it technically DID exist in the Halloween continuity at that point, so it would always be canon in some way or another.

Like many, I was plenty surprised to see the 2018 movie at least acknowledge this movie by including the masks in a particular scene, and I even got James Jude Courtney to sign an 8x10 of him with the shamrock kids. That was a wet dream come true.

There's so much to ponder about this movie, like what came next? Did Dan Challis stop the commercial? Did it destroy society? I've even read on a message board that someone approached director Tommy Lee Wallace about their proposed sequel, and he was quite intrigued about their take on it. A sequel probably wouldn't work though. And if Rob Zombie did a Halloween 3, would he rip off this movie? Who fucking knows!


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Tommix says:
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Oct '19 *
I am also a big fan of this one. I agree with pretty much everything you said... I also particularly like the scene of the trick or treating kids in Phoenix, AZ, walking along the side of that desert hill in the evening, with the very red sunset in the background behind them. Wait, that's basically the poster you described, isn't it?? Or is that the Los Angeles trick or treaters... Well, I guess I'm just saying I liked the scenes they got the poster from.

By the way, I'm really sorry I have completely fallen off the radar lately, and in October, for crying out loud. SO LAME. I was out in California celebrating my mom's 75th birthday with my brother and sister (and with her, of course). I couldn't get online, because I left my laptop at home, and my mom's computer somehow goes through her school, and it blocks Trash Epics. I could have used my brother's computer, but I couldn't understand how to scroll down on it, and also his kids have been screwing around with the passwords, so I was basically at a loss. Anyway, I'm back, I'll try to contribute something to this place for the last few days of October.

Getting back to H3... yeah, it really is the most true to what a franchise called Halloween SHOULD be about, isn't it?!? The original novelization of the 1978 Halloween has some old Irish Samhain stuff in it, soooo this movie finally got back to that theme. I also like the soundtrack, (not just the music to the Silver Shamrock commercial, I mean the whole soundtrack). It (the soundtrack) might have some of JC's best work, actually, if you think about it.

I would frigging love a sequel to this movie. Halloween 3 part 2. It would be set in some knd of post-apocalyptic America, kind of like The Stand or Van Helsing. They could do all kinds of things with it.

I think I have mentioned this before, but on Twitter there is a whole community of people who pretend to be characters from this movie. They stay in character and interact with each other, and sometimes with people pretending to be characters from other 80s movies, and from Jaws. It's pretty funny.

The 2018 Halloween acknowledged ALL the sequels, I think, sometimes in subtle ways. I give them credit for that, it was nce of them to tip their hat to the people who have kept the franchise alive over so many decades.

The Guest (2014) had a shitload of homages to this movie too, by the way.

So anyway, YEAH. Great movie.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#2, Reply to #1

Oct '19
The soundtrack is pretty awesome. I met Alan Howarth a few years back and bought the H3 soundtrack and had him sign it. He seemed pretty surprised at the time that I liked what most would consider a dud, but there's no denying that the music is solid.

I was just watching the scene where Atkins is tied up and masked and forced to watch the tv while the original Halloween is playing. That scene is wonderful. I love that the music from part 1 compliments the mood of this scene so perfectly.


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Tommix says:
#3, Reply to #2

Oct '19
Another thing is that Conal Cochran doesn't exactly get killed at the end. He sort of fades away, or dissolves. In fact, he's got a great big smile on his papier mache face as he blanks out. Maybe they were thinking about having him come back somehow, in some form, in a sequel. Dan O'Herlihy's been gone for awhile now (he would have been 100 this year), but maybe they could CGI something with his image for a sequel, or just get someone else to play the character.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#5, Reply to #3

Oct '19
Nah. H3 was the one movie in the series they probably never thought to sequel-ize, because if it ends with an apocalyptic scenario, then the sequels wont be relatable to contemporary folk. That's the art of crafting a story though. You need to make things dramatic without making them too dramatic, which is why the Myers story works, because in the end of those movies, it's only just a handful of people having been murdered in a small town no one thinks about. H3's scope was too grand for sequels. That is... unless Dan Challis actually got the stations to stop playing the commercial. Then, it would be an isolated incident and a sequel could actually work.


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Tommix says:
#4, Reply to #2

Oct '19
If they can get the rights to Dan O'Herlihy's face, voice, etc, he would make a perfect Agent Pendergast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloysius_Pendergast


They'll probably film some of the books Pendergast appears in, one of these days. I know, they can already make movies starring actors who have been gone for years, but I don't think it's exactly routine yet. Soon it will just be like yawn, run of the mill, oh, there's a new Katherine Hepburn movie out, how nice.


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Tommix says:
#10, Reply to #2

Oct '19
I can't believe it's Halloween already. This has possibly been the most pathetic October of my entire life, horror movie-wise. I look forward to October all year long, and this month I have hardly watched anything. It is partly because I traveled and was spending time with family for some of the month, and also I spent a big part of the rest of the month just trying to get back into my usual habits, and that kept me too preoccupied to watch many movies. I get confused if there are major disruptions in my life, like flying across the continent. October is usually fairly sedentary for me, I don't ordinarily have any really huge discontinuities in my normal routines. But this October was hard... also, I worry that I will forget passwords for various things, if I don't use them daily in the places I ordinarily use them. I like to believe that I have everything written down, and could easily recover my life if I forgot a password or two, but the fact is that it is a struggle to stay ahead of these things, and I have various passwords coming and going, in and out of my life, all the time. When I'm away for a week or two, it REALLY throws me off, bigtime, and it gets worse every year. I think part of how I'm wired up to remember some of my passwords involves standing in a particular location, like at a certain automated register at my local CVS, etc, or standing by a certain table in my apartment, or even a specific lamp I have turned on, or not turned on, on the table... If I fall out of the habit of being in the place I'm accustomed to being, and doing the things I'm accustomed to doing, when I use whatever the password is for whatever the service is, that means I risk forgetting the password itself, and maybe even other parts of the procedures of logging in and out of various things. I bet it would literally show up on a CAT scan of my brain... my physical neurons involved in retrieving specific bits of information are cross-wired with the neurons associated with things like standing in certain locations, holding my head in certain ways, doing things in a certain order, etc.

Anyway. Sorry I have been lame here this October. I know you guys all totally depend on me to sustain your entire Trash Epics existence. No, seriously, I do usually try to chip in more than I did this month, it was just pathetic. Argh.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#11, Reply to #10

Oct '19
No worries. I've been busier than I'd like, and as of now, I still haven't completed the challenge. With a bit of persistence, I'll have it done by tonight, but I've watched less than I wanted to, what with work, school, inconsistent sleeping habits, and trying to finish writing my current story on top of that. I didn't even have time to implement that annoying Silver Shamrock easter egg, or any Halloween-related gimmicks for the site. You think you feel bad? I feel appauled by my lack of TE pride.


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ZombieCPA says:
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Oct '19
This movie gets too much hate and too much love too. I've found it pretty average.


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Amon_101 says:
#7, Reply to #6

Oct '19
Oddly enough, that's exactly how I feel about the first one. For me at least, it's just an average movie with really no plot.
A guy escapes the booby hatch, and returns home and kills teenagers for no reason.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#8, Reply to #6

Oct '19
Most of the world would agree with you as it sits at an extremely mundane 4.9 on imdb.


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sfpx says:
#9

Oct '19
I've tried to get into this one, but never could. And not because it has nothing to do with Michael either. I just find the movie kind of dull.

Renting it as a kid and waiting and waiting for Michael to show up was a hilarious (but at the time, frustrating) memory. Guess I didn't read the back of the box.



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