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May '19
What do you think of this? I'd been waiting my whole life for the real Terminator 3, and it's finally coming. The trailer is a big tease though, and it doesn't show enough of what I'm looking for.

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So as you can see, we have an endoskeleton with a liquid metal skin. The last few movies always made the new machines ridiculously over-the-top and it kind of pissed me off. This time, they just merged the first two villains into one, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I wish they wouldn't try to make things look "cool" and sleek, though. The machines started out as clunky robots that weren't trying to impress anybody with strong acrobatics. They were just armored killing machines.

Judging by this trailer, I'm still not sure what the story is. There's some girl who's basically the new Sarah Connor, while the old Sarah Connor is trying to protect her, along with some other overly-advanced hybrid type.

I sure hope the R-rating is pushed to the max, and that Arnold has a somewhat prominent role. As you can see, he's only in the trailer for 2 seconds, but every terminator fan knows that the movies don't work well without him.

Very vague, but I'm optimistic.


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Tommix says:
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May '19
That young blonde girl was pretty good in Blade Runner 2049, so that's a good start.

It sounds like it might take too strongly religious an approach, just judging from the choir music. I've always had mixed feelings about that. In some ways I prefer the first Terminator movie to T2, as excellent as T2 is, just because the first one is a straight scifi thriller without all the stuff about redemption, Judgement Day, learning moral lessons, etc.

Somehow I got a little bit of a Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles vibe there, watching the trailer. Not sure why. That would be good if there is some kind of connection though, I liked that show.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#2, Reply to #1

May '19
T1 was a straight-up sci-fi slasher, which is why it's awesome. It was made in the 80s, when it was encouraged to push the boundaries of (practical) special effects, and it gory. T2 was polished, and had some amazing themes and acting in it, and pushed the digital special effects boundaries to the limit. The stuff of today, even after almost 30 years, still isn't much better.

But I agree that it would be great if, for once, a Terminator sequel would try to emulate the tone of the original, rather than T2. I want something dark and gritty. Less flashy, and less CGI. But anything Arnold is absolute gold to me, so I'm still stoked.


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Jan_El_Senor says:
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May '19
Crap. Sarah Connor died in 1997.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#4, Reply to #3

May '19
Are you saying that because of T3's explanation? Because T3 isn't canon anymore. Hell, it wasn't even canon when Genisys came out.

Linda Hamilton apparently wasn't happy with the script for T3, so she bowed out of that and was replaced by Kate Brewster, who was okay at best. Or are you referring to the tv show, in which Sarah was also killed by cancer, only she had jumped ahead in time to the late 2000s to bypass it?

All entries beyond T2 lacked Cameron's involvement, and it must have also been weird for Linda, seeing as how she was at one time married to Jim Cameron. I guess they're on okay terms if they're doing this movie now.


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Jan_El_Senor says:
#5, Reply to #4

May '19
T3 is my sequel. Cameron is just cashing in because he got the rights back. He always maintained T2 was the end in his mind. This is just a cash grab.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#6, Reply to #5

May '19
Yeah, well he never truly had the rights to the series, because he had to sell the rights just to make the first movie. A movie he believed in with all his heart, it seems.

A few days ago, I read an interview with Michael Biehn about how he thought the initial script was kinda meh, but after talking to JC about it, and seeing how JC could answer every question he had about the movie, that gave Michael Biehn the confidence in making it, and he knew that JC knew what he was doing. Sure, T2 was the proposed conclusion, but only because he didn't own the rights to further the story to his content.

As technology and the times have evolved, JC's enthusiasm has increased. Yeah, I know Avatar was a surprisingly successful piece of shit, so his involvement doesn't mean DICK anymore, but I hope that he has something to say with this movie. Afterall, T2 was his baby, and it's also my favorite film of all time, ever since I was a kid. The series deserves better treatment that what it's gotten, so I'm crossing ALL my fingers that it doesn't end up being another run-of-the-mill sci-fi turd.


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Jan_El_Senor says:
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May '19 *
To each their own. I personally love T3 and cannot understand the hate that movie gets. So a new film that retcons it is already a negative mark in my eyes.

That said, I'm sure curiosity will eventually get the better of me, and I will see it at some point....


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Box_a_Hair says:
#8, Reply to #7

May '19
T3 wasn't a bad movie. It had a whole lot less to say than T2 though, trading in great story and great acting for a spectacle event movie. It merely retreads the same grounds as T2, yet pushes hard enough to undo the vaguely optimistic ending. I think the end is pretty good, because I want the series to be bleak as fuck, but it generally offers nothing new. My general idea is that is lacks as a Terminator movie, but is still a fun Arnold movie.


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#9, Reply to #7

May '19
I'm with Senor over here. I'm quite partial to T3 and think Nick Stahl did a good job stepping in as an older John Conner. For me the franchise ends after T3 cause Salvation was an abortion and Genysis wasn't much better IMO.


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Jan_El_Senor says:
#10, Reply to #9

May '19
Salvation sucked. Genysis was OK as a "What if?" scenario, but that's about it....


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#11, Reply to #10

May '19
I'd bet you're a big Rick Astley fan?...yeah, me too. I love that guy!


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markus-san says:
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May '19 *
The only thing that struck me about the trailer is the cover of Bjork's Hunter. I think I would be more excited if James Cameron was actually directing and that CG action scene involving the plane at the end just looks Alien: Convenant level bad to me. I guess Schwarzenegger is playing the actual person the T-800 was modelled on.



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