With the US election on the horizon I figured it would be nice to have a place for CIVIL political discord. That being said feel free to drag your third world non-american politics into the mix as well
This response is retarded. You do know that "snowflake" is a term used to describe liberal loonies and not conservatives, right? Talking about having a Christian in the office is absolutely ridiculous too. After the Obama era, Christianity and "Under God" was a big no-go in the white house until Trump had to push it, so this shit about Biden being a more legitimate christian is fucked. That dude is catholic for one, and they're all full of shit. Especially catholic democrats who have expressed pedophile tendencies smelling hair of several minors, but you already knew that. You just want to bash someone with a bunch of half-assed reasons that apply more particularly to your own party which you refuse to acknowledge.
And liberals are always offended, hence the connotation. I'm pretty sure the only reason you say he gets butthurt is because... yes... your ultra-left media is painting you that picture, and you're eating that shit up like it's good for you.
Either way, these religious acts are always a publicity stunt, and you know that because the cameras are invited. I doubt either one of them are honestly religious, so throw this whole issue out the window.
Oh Johan... Why do you push me so much with this incessant need to agitate my political nerve?
TE isn't a goddamn political platform. Anyone who thinks that needs a good punch to the nose. If you want to be pro this or against that, who fucking cares.
But again, you (and most of the world apparently) refuse to accept that your thoughts on Trump are the way they are because of media manipulation against the guy who's brave enough to call them out on their shennanigans. The democrats are corrupt to the core and the assloads of proof is swept under the rug. Trump is only the guy brave enough to rustle the feathers, and that's why us ignorant hillybilly Trump supporters approve of him throwing a wrench into this wretched system. His aim is internal economy and maintaining our rights.
The democrats don't have American's best interests in mind, and that's blatantly obvious with their inability to answer questions on just about any topic. They thrive on class difference and welfare recipients' votes because they offer no real positive change to society. They're the ones who raise our taxes. They're the ones who make race an issue. They're the ones who incited the riots. They killed our space exploration programs, cut our military budget, they invite ANYONE into our borders because they fund terrorists (Clinton & Obama). They gave North Korea the nukes they wanted to bomb us with way back in the 90s. Plus, as suspected, we've already had our share of dead people voting democrat this year.
But since Trump doesn't put on a happy face, fuck him, and fuck all those naive conservative fucks who actually like America. They're the worst.
And a follow-up to the previous response. I was heated, but I'm drunk enough to discern that now is as valid as any a time to clarify my points.
Democrats in theory aren't bad. They've had a few notable ones with good intentions, but their aim went haywire after too many off-kilter deals with foreign powers. They've convoluted things quite a bit for the states, and we're all still dealing with the ass-end of those consequences. I equate it to gangster movies. The states haven't been paying their protection money to other countries, so we've been imposed upon to let them step on us. I don't like getting stepped on, but the idea of such independence is being shit on by our higher-ups and disguised as patriotism.
What I really detest about your comment is that you say pro-Republican is a bad thing. Keep in mind that some of the state's best leadership was under this party. Lincoln was the first, and he freed the slaves. Throughout the years, we've had them on and off and they weren't all perfect, but they all had some valuable contribution to society, just as the democrats side. Suddenly, you say Republican as if it were a bad thing to be. Everybody's idealogies get twisted in this political climate, because it's been twisted. Regular politics aren't enough, so it's come down to manipulation of the masses, and it's awful.
You Johan, for instance. You butt into these topics with a negatively charged argument, claim it as your final word, and "exit" the thread. Attitudes don't have to be set in stone. Neither side has to be seen as good or bad. My life as a regular and tired working/schooling American benefits more from Trump's Republican endeavors. If you want to side with a democrat POV, so be it.
I don't throw around petty insults like some have in recent times. I don't detest someone because of their political endeavors, but rather their shortsightedness about them. It's like the information is there, and people prefer the filtered version because they don't want to be personally involved.
Johan, you Belgium bastard... I lament your political judgments of my principles, but damnit... I like you. For some reason, I still find myself capable of liking you and all the others that seem politically inept to me, but I ain't pushing for this divide. It's all a smoke screen, and people need to wake up.
One final and barley related note: my shitty job has been getting a lot of a cheap Belgium beer called Burgkopf pils, and I'm loving it. A pack a day keeps the sorrows away.
Johan, I'm tired of trying to tell you the sky is blue and the grass is green, because you'll never accept anything I have to say about politics because you go by your emotions, and that's a dangerous road to travel.
Media manipulation isn't a conspiracy. It's proven factual shit that happens here everyday, and I'm sorry that you live in such a blessed environment where it seems like horse shit to you, but it's a very real thing, and the image of America is being highly distorted by the news that other countries are given about us, and it's fucked. It's a load of hate-mongering and gaslighting, and it needs to stop. And I'm sorry if you don't like the guy trying to stop it, but his "bratty" attitude is a small price for fed up Americans to pay for having someone speak out against a viciously corrupt establishment.
My entire reasoning for supporting Trump is because of logic over emotion. I've listed my reasons, and you'll throw a wrench at them no matter how logical my arguments are. Go ahead and try to convince me that endorsing a party who pushes racial and class issues, raises everyone's taxes, and funds terrorists while digging the country deeper into debt is logically convenient for anyone. This isn't rocket science.
"Btw I don't see how space exploration is essential to humankind?"
Biden/Harris has been named person of the year. That's right, two entities have merged into a single person to be given the title of "person of the year" by the most reputable source of all time: the media.
And the best part is that neither one of 'him' have been transparent about anything at all this entire year. These bold and courageous leaders plead the fifth when asked about their political plans. They wont let anyone stand in the way of their serving the public trust. Especially Americans!
As the blatant inconsistencies build regarding the "election" results, true leaders need not abide by the laws that let them come to power. No, a true leader usurps the system that has existed successfully for centuries, because that's what honest elected officials do. True leaders who know not their whereabouts or agenda, but rather what's best for you. The American public that funds the government so it can continue telling you how to live your life.
Don't let your stupid thoughts cloud your judgment when it comes to knowing who to vote for. Vote for the good guys. Biden/Harris. After all, he won Time Magazine's People of the Us Weekly Award because of all those innumerably countless good things they did for you that we just discussed in great depth and detail. You know the ones I'm talking about.
Trump is bad. It's about time that racist old white guy gets out of the office. Now we have a patriot in the office with absolutely no history of racism at all, and since Time named him and Harris as one entity, he's part black now and his average age is younger than Trump, and he identifies as neither a man nor woman because male + female = less sexist than Trump's cabinet of racist old white guy's squared. That's math. And science.
Biden/Harris cabinet is so much more diverse, which means that white people, regardless of their origins and racial sentiment, will finally feel the wrath of racism, because Black Lives Matter, and if you disagree with that, then you ain't black. Biden/Harris isn't a racist old white guy at all. He's a role model, on account of everything he's done for humanity.
You sure are a funny guy, zombie. Your reverse spin on reality is not only misguided, but it genuinely puts a smile on my face. I'm glad we have patriots such as yourself who twist the facts in an effort to break them, but the facts are still facts. Democrats supported North Korea and gave them the nukes years ago, but go ahead and compare Trump to NK if you want, even though he's the guy who put them in their place and finally got them to stop threatening to destroy us every day.
I mean, what kind of asshole uses diplomacy to negotiate peace with other countries? Plural, as in he's negotiated peace between multiple nations, that narcissist... And what kind of jerk gathers up a fuck-ton of evidence to prove how blatantly rigged this election was with all those millions of fraudulent and dead people votes? I'm glad they ignored this overwhelming amount of evidence in favor of the guy who wants to let China move in through the back door so we can fast-track our transition to socialism into full-blown communism. That's what we all need in our lives. Fuck capitalism, am I right?
"AOC is also a borderlinesocialist and I donโt like her."
Yeah, you have some of the right ideas toward the bottom of that rant, but why are you hating on Bush? Don't you know he's a RINO?
And I've said it before and I'll say it again. You don't have to watch FOX or any other "right-wing" news media to tell you that CNN and MSN and every other left-wing media outlet is all about smear tactics and twisting the narrative. I've seen one too many "horror stories" by them that have turned out to be completely inaccurate accounts of the actual events. They have no credibility and they've proven that on their own, without the help of an opposing media. In fact, if people turned off the goddamn news, there would be a lot less false information out there, regarding either side.
Sure, Obama may have inadvertantly done some good for a few people, so be it. I'm sure he's done other okay things, but in mine and half the country's eyes, he's done more questionable things than good things. If you want to continue denying that Trump has done anything good for the country, then that's an opinion you can keep warm and cozy up your ass, because it ain't everyone's opinion.
Hi. I'm markus, and American politics don't affect me at all. I sure do like to chime in on them though. I side with the democrats because they're not shady at all. Trump = Bad
Why bother with evidence? Your mind was made up long before this thread came about, and everyone knows that when someone thinks something, it becomes the indisputable truth. Besides, I'm not a democrat, which means I'm against democrats, so anything I say is inadmissable due to my differing political opinion.
Yeah, I'm all for letting this thread die. Gotta get used to things dying, like my freedom and whatnot.
When people wonder where it all went wrong, I'll point to 2020 and say "I warned him."